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How can '''National''' Coming Out Day be an "'''internationally-observed'''" event? -- [[User:12.116.162.162|12.116.162.162]] 18:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
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==Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment==
Yes? Internationally observed by whom? --[[User:204.154.114.192|204.154.114.192]] 19:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)Trav
[[File:Sciences humaines.svg|40px]] This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2021-08-30">30 August 2021</span> and <span class="mw-formatted-date" title="2021-12-08">8 December 2021</span>. Further details are available [[Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Humanities_and_Media_Studies/HMS101A-LC3_(Fall_2021)|on the course page]]. Student editor(s): [[User:SomewhatAlexandra|SomewhatAlexandra]].
:Both of these concerns were addressed in the article at some time after they were posted. The day was originally a national event and was adopted in a number of other countries.[[User:Mujerado|mujerado]] ([[User talk:Mujerado|talk]]) 03:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)


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I believe this is the US form of a National. But, I agree that someone should check on this.. Also, adding National (US) could be helpful for our foreign english speakers. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Morwenedhelwen|Morwenedhelwen]] ([[User talk:Morwenedhelwen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Morwenedhelwen|contribs]]) 15:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== More recent sources needed ==


I've added a couple of sources to evidence the international dimension of this day; a very quick Google search turned up very little in the way of reliable sources from outside America more recent than 2013, and one ([https://www.irishexaminer.com/examviral/12-touching-stories-and-inspiring-words-from-national-coming-out-day-809527.html The Irish Examiner], from this year) looks to have garnered its info from this very article. If anyone can update it with something more contemporary that would be great. ~ [[User:Maltrópa|Maltrópa]] <sup>''[[User talk:Maltrópa|loquace]]''</sup> 23:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
==Comment==
I think the link ''An article addressing concerns regarding National Coming-Out Day'' should be removed as it contains a biased view of a single individual, which I don't really think anyone cares about. -- Someone who doesn't care.


== "National" implies a specific country ==
==UK==
I'm not sure why it was removed but the date for "National Coming Out Day" in the United Kingdom has always been October 12th so I hope no one minds if I make reference to this in the article.


This article is exclusively about a United States topic, but is written as if the United States were the only country. I propose renaming the article to National Coming Out Day (United States), and/or re-writing the article introduction from a global perspective, giving the appropriate context about which in the nation in question [[User:Fibre H. Bundle|Fibre H. Bundle]] ([[User talk:Fibre H. Bundle|talk]]) 10:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Just to confirm that it is in fact observed on October 12th in the UK and to clear up the current confusion see:


:See it's not only celebrated in the USA though?
http://www.gaydarnation.com/UserPortal/Article/Detail.aspx?ID=22445&sid=253
:It started there, but it's been spreading to other countries in the 30 years since creation [[Special:Contributions/82.14.222.80|82.14.222.80]] ([[User talk:82.14.222.80|talk]]) 10:17, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
http://equality-network.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=1168
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:In the article itself:
http://www.queeryouth.org.uk/community/index.php?&act=Events&CODE=25&e_id=281
:> National Coming Out Day is also observed in Ireland,[5] Switzerland, the Netherlands, United Kingdom,[6] and Portugal.[7] [[Special:Contributions/82.14.222.80|82.14.222.80]] ([[User talk:82.14.222.80|talk]]) 10:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
http://www.ladslads.com/blogs/view/2008/October/east/as_uk_national_coming_out_day_12_october_uk/131517
http://www.comeout.org.uk


== Some people are advocate for it to be renamed to International ==
--[[User:Spacepostman|Spacepostman]] ([[User talk:Spacepostman|talk]]) 20:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


As this event is now celebrated in multiple countries [[Special:Contributions/82.14.222.80|82.14.222.80]] ([[User talk:82.14.222.80|talk]]) 10:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
==dead link==


:In the article itself: > National Coming Out Day is also observed in Ireland,[5] Switzerland, the Netherlands, United Kingdom,[6] and Portugal.[7] [[Special:Contributions/82.14.222.80|82.14.222.80]] ([[User talk:82.14.222.80|talk]]) 10:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
The "Coming Out 101" link http://www.comingout101.com/ is dead. --[[User:Triptenator|Triptenator]] ([[User talk:Triptenator|talk]]) 18:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:: There's nothing in the current MSM in the UK about it. Seems it's primarily a US thing. Maybe there's some [[WP:UNDUE]] here? [[User:MidnightBlueMan|<span style="color: DarkBlue;">'''MidnightBlue'''</span>]] [[User talk:MidnightBlueMan|<span style="color: Blue;">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 16:48, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

:Good catch, I removed it. [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <u style="font-size:14px; font-family: cursive;color:#8000FF">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u><u style="font-size:14px;font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<font color="#AA0022">oi</font></u>]] 23:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

==Logo==
:Is there a reason the logo for coming out day is a picture of someone with a limp wrist doing a can-can out of a closet? Was that the maximum number of gay stereotypes they could fit into one logo? [[Special:Contributions/98.229.88.151|98.229.88.151]] ([[User talk:98.229.88.151|talk]]) 13:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

::The logo was designed by gay artist [[Keith Haring]] for advertising the first National Coming Out Day; its use on posters, button, t-shirts and other items in the years since have made it the ''de facto'' logo. If you head to his page, you will see that it is very much in line with his distinctive style. But now that you mention it, we can probably pad the article a bit by giving information about the logo. [[User:TechBear|<font color="green">'''TechBear'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:TechBear|Talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/TechBear|Contributions]] 13:45, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

==Founders==
There is a dispute as to whether William Gamble was a co-founder of NCOD. Honey Ward avers that Eichberg and O'Leary were the only co-founders. Gamble's name was added to the co-founders recently and as she reviewed the page before the annual commemoration in 2010, she asked me to remove the reference to Gamble. I've created this new section so she can state her evidence. [[User:Tonyfv|Tonyfv]] ([[User talk:Tonyfv|talk]]) 04:47, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Honey Ward - I was a close friend and colleague of Eichberg's from 1979 until his death in 1995. Through our work as facilitators of [http://experienceyourpower.com/ The Experience] workshops, the notion of a day on which all LGBT people would come out had been presented for many years.

It wasn't until the "War Conference" (a national gathering of gay leaders), which followed the 1987 March on Washington, that the idea took form. Rob and Jean went to the microphone at the conference in Virginia and agreed to take responsibility for creating a National Coming Out Day on behalf of their organizations ([http://experienceyourpower.com/ The Experience] and National Gay Rights Advocates).

Mr. Gamble is unknown to those who were in close relationship to Rob Eichberg, including myself and his mother, Shirley Eichberg Greenes. Shirley managed her son's business affairs; she and I both spoke with Rob on a daily basis about personal and professional matters both before and after the founding of NCOD.

The following links accurately cite the founders of National Coming Out Day, Dr. Rob Eichberg and Jean O'Leary:

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/15/obituaries/robert-eichberg-50-gay-rights-leader.html
http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19950814&slug=2136369
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/07/national/07oleary.html
http://www.sgn.org/sgnnews23/page17.cfm
[[User:Honeyward|Honeyward]] ([[User talk:Honeyward|talk]]) 19:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)


Honey Ward <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Honeyward|Honeyward]] ([[User talk:Honeyward|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Honeyward|contribs]]) 05:38, 26 October 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Providing verifiable sources and writing the article based on that information is the way to go here. Please do not paste copyrighted text from other websites, instead, write in your own words and be sure to include the sources you are using to [[WP:V|verify]] the information (see [[WP:CITE]] for information on how to cite your sources on Wikipedia). You may also wish to review the policy that explains what kinds of sources are appropriate, for example, blogs are generally not usable whereas newspaper articles are almost always appropriate - you can read this entire policy at [[WP:RS]]. [[User:Shell_Kinney|Shell]] <sup>[[User_talk:Shell_Kinney|babelfish]]</sup> 14:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

::I've updated the history a bit to reflect the information in the references provided. The co-founders are sourced to the obituaries in the NY and Seattle Times; the bulk of the history is sourced to the Human Rights Campaign's website - it would be good if we could find some additional references rather than rely on one source for the bulk of the article. Feel free to edit, change, make it sound better - just be careful of the bits inside the <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags (this is what causes the numbers with links to the references to show up). And if you have any other questions about Wikipedia or adding to articles, I'd be happy to answer them. [[User:Shell_Kinney|Shell]] <sup>[[User_talk:Shell_Kinney|babelfish]]</sup> 17:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== It's today ==

I don't know how to do so, but can come nice wikiperson make this page protected for today? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/108.240.77.184|108.240.77.184]] ([[User talk:108.240.77.184|talk]]) 07:06, 11 October 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I just undid two ridiculous attacks of vandalism on the opening paragraph. There must be a way to hyper-protect a page that is the target of the hate of others. [[User:Lapisphil|Lapisphil]] ([[User talk:Lapisphil|talk]]) 07:17, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

: I've requested a semi-protect for 24 hours. [[User:TechBear|<font color="green">'''TechBear'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:TechBear|Talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/TechBear|Contributions]] 11:48, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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== Name of the article ==

This day is Internationally celebrated day. But it is mentioned as National Coming Out Day. Shouldn't it be International Coming Out Day or just Coming Out Day. I don't think National Coming Out Day is a suitable one or correct. What do you think?
-[[User:KrozanDarshandhari|KrozanDarshandhari]] ([[User talk:KrozanDarshandhari|talk]]) 03:12, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

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More recent sources needed

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I've added a couple of sources to evidence the international dimension of this day; a very quick Google search turned up very little in the way of reliable sources from outside America more recent than 2013, and one (The Irish Examiner, from this year) looks to have garnered its info from this very article. If anyone can update it with something more contemporary that would be great. ~ Maltrópa loquace 23:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"National" implies a specific country

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This article is exclusively about a United States topic, but is written as if the United States were the only country. I propose renaming the article to National Coming Out Day (United States), and/or re-writing the article introduction from a global perspective, giving the appropriate context about which in the nation in question Fibre H. Bundle (talk) 10:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See it's not only celebrated in the USA though?
It started there, but it's been spreading to other countries in the 30 years since creation 82.14.222.80 (talk) 10:17, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In the article itself:
> National Coming Out Day is also observed in Ireland,[5] Switzerland, the Netherlands, United Kingdom,[6] and Portugal.[7] 82.14.222.80 (talk) 10:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some people are advocate for it to be renamed to International

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As this event is now celebrated in multiple countries 82.14.222.80 (talk) 10:19, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the article itself: > National Coming Out Day is also observed in Ireland,[5] Switzerland, the Netherlands, United Kingdom,[6] and Portugal.[7] 82.14.222.80 (talk) 10:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's nothing in the current MSM in the UK about it. Seems it's primarily a US thing. Maybe there's some WP:UNDUE here? MidnightBlue (Talk) 16:48, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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