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{{Ping|Prcc27}} totally fine bringing this to the talk page, since I do know this is a major edit, but I do really think this page needs to be a bit more [[trans male]]-inclusive. The article is about gay sexual practices between males, so including a brief section about sexual behaviors between trans and cis men seems both necessary and appropriate for an encyclopedic article about sex between men. If this were an article about gay sexual practices exclusively between [[cisgender]] men, then the lack of trans representation might make more sense. As it stands, the absence of any mention of trans men feels like a major omission, especially since all reliable sources describe trans men who are attracted to other men as [[queer]] or [[gay]]. If there are gay trans men, it's common sense that there's also gay trans sex. |
{{Ping|Prcc27}} totally fine bringing this to the talk page, since I do know this is a major edit, but I do really think this page needs to be a bit more [[trans male]]-inclusive. The article is about gay sexual practices between males, so including a brief section about sexual behaviors between trans and cis men seems both necessary and appropriate for an encyclopedic article about sex between men. If this were an article about gay sexual practices exclusively between [[cisgender]] men, then the lack of trans representation might make more sense. As it stands, the absence of any mention of trans men feels like a major omission, especially since all reliable sources describe trans men who are attracted to other men as [[queer]] or [[gay]]. If there are gay trans men, it's common sense that there's also gay trans sex. |
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Regarding images, I agree that there is nothing wrong per se with the one already present for oral sex, but it’s really a bit obscured and hard to tell what’s going on. There's not much in the image but shadow? If I had no idea what gay oral sex entailed, I wouldn’t learn anything from that image. The current images of anal and non-penetrative sex are super helpful and useful, but we don’t have any similar animations on Commons depicting oral sex between men (although there is actually one illustrating the [[69 (sex position)|69]] position). Maybe another image might be found that’s more educational but also less visually graphic? Best, [[User:Louisianajones1978|Louisianajones1978]] ([[User talk:Louisianajones1978|talk]]) 14:05, 13 April 2021 (UTC) |
Regarding images, I agree that there is nothing wrong per se with the one already present for oral sex, but it’s really a bit obscured and hard to tell what’s going on. There's not much in the image but shadow? If I had no idea what gay oral sex entailed, I wouldn’t learn anything from that image. The current images of anal and non-penetrative sex are super helpful and useful, but we don’t have any similar animations on Commons depicting oral sex between men (although there is actually one [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki-sixtynine-male.jpg Commons image] illustrating the [[69 (sex position)|69]] position). Maybe another image might be found that’s more educational but also less visually graphic? Best, [[User:Louisianajones1978|Louisianajones1978]] ([[User talk:Louisianajones1978|talk]]) 14:05, 13 April 2021 (UTC) |
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Oral sex
There is a section on anal sex and non,-penetrative sex; I feel like we need a section on oral sex as well. Prcc27 (talk) 12:14, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
BDSM
Can we remove the BDSM section, I don't think there is enough WP:WEIGHT to keep that section? Prcc27 (talk) 03:04, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2021
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From Section 1.2, Paragraph 2, change
MSM may use sex toys. According to an online survey of over 25,000 men who self-report a homosexual or bisexual orientation, 49.8% have ever used vibrators.
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MSM may use sex toys. According to an online survey of 25,294 men who self-report a homosexual or bisexual orientation, 49.8% have used vibrators.
- All set, thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:08, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Trans-inclusivity
@Prcc27: totally fine bringing this to the talk page, since I do know this is a major edit, but I do really think this page needs to be a bit more trans male-inclusive. The article is about gay sexual practices between males, so including a brief section about sexual behaviors between trans and cis men seems both necessary and appropriate for an encyclopedic article about sex between men. If this were an article about gay sexual practices exclusively between cisgender men, then the lack of trans representation might make more sense. As it stands, the absence of any mention of trans men feels like a major omission, especially since all reliable sources describe trans men who are attracted to other men as queer or gay. If there are gay trans men, it's common sense that there's also gay trans sex.
Regarding images, I agree that there is nothing wrong per se with the one already present for oral sex, but it’s really a bit obscured and hard to tell what’s going on. There's not much in the image but shadow? If I had no idea what gay oral sex entailed, I wouldn’t learn anything from that image. The current images of anal and non-penetrative sex are super helpful and useful, but we don’t have any similar animations on Commons depicting oral sex between men (although there is actually one Commons image illustrating the 69 position). Maybe another image might be found that’s more educational but also less visually graphic? Best, Louisianajones1978 (talk) 14:05, 13 April 2021 (UTC)