User talk:Mureungdowon

Japanese political parties

I'm in the process of updating the result tables on political pages, so please don't revert my edits :) ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 21:29, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

It is unfair to remove "social liberalism" from the infobox of the Democratic Party of Japan article. The DPJ is a center-left party that supports cultural liberalism and Keynesianism. Mureungdowon (talk) 07:41, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Fair point. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 13:21, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

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Socialism in South Korea

I noticed that you re-added and expanded info to the "Socialism in South Korea" page. Have you thought about create a sidebar for it? ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 20:12, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

I do not yet support the creation of the sidebar. There is no individual sidebar in Korean Wikipedia and Namuwiki, and above all, the socialist movement in South Korea is still non-mainstream, unlike the United States, and should be viewed as part of the progressive camp so far. Mureungdowon (talk) 20:15, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Understood :) ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 20:27, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

February 2022

Your recent editing history at Anti-Chinese sentiment in Korea shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Stop trying to crowbar anti-Korean sentiment into Antisemitism

Stop trying to crowbar anti-Korean sentiment into Antisemitism, where it does not belong, or you will be blocked. Bishonen | tålk 11:44, 26 February 2023 (UTC).

Of course anti-Korean sentiment and anti-semitism are different. However, it is clear that Jews and Koreans are the main victims of World War II. The difference is that unlike Germany, Japan does not reflect at all. If you change the anti-Korean investigation frequently conducted by Japanese conservatives from Korean to Jewish, it is almost treated as a neo-Nazi in Germany. Mureungdowon (talk) 11:48, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

I checked your user page 20 seconds ago. You must be a Japanese anime/manga mania. I don't know if you're brainwashed by Japanese Propaganda, but Japan's anti-Korean sentiment is clearly far-right by European standards. Mureungdowon (talk) 11:51, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

I think you better avoid making assumptions about other editor's intentions, when you are strongly emotionally involved in a topic. Bishonen is a fine admin. See also WP:RGW. Regarding the number of victims of WWII: statistically, the Soviet Union and Cina had the largest number of casualties. Emotionally, probably everyone who endured that war is a victim; I regularly speak very old people (90+) who still recall the horrors. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:44, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

I think it is unfair that Bishonen mentioned "blocked". I have clearly provided a source, and I have not violated WP:3RR. Mureungdowon (talk) 12:59, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Perhaps not, but you are indeed WP:EDITWARring to get your favored material into the article. Use the article talk page to gain WP:CONSENSUS now. And stop with the personal attacks. "Brainwashed"? An inappropriate suggestion under any circumstances. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 17:12, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

March 2023

Hello, I'm Vif12vf. I noticed that you recently removed content from Democratic Socialism (Chile) without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 05:27, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Loafiewa. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Japanese war crimes, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Loafiewa (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

That's what I recovered because you removed the editing of another IP user. I just added a source. It is clear that Japanese war crimes are genosides, and denying them is like Holocaust denial. Mureungdowon (talk) 21:39, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Loafiewa. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Please do not accuse or otherwise imply that a specific user is a racist. That is unacceptable behavior on Wikipedia. BilCat (talk) 01:09, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

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Your userpage

You have a lot of inflammatory content on your userpage. You call Chinese and Japanese culture uncivilized and xenophobic, you liken Japan to anti-Semites, you launch pretty harsh attacks on those who aren't Korean nationalists ("demon traitors", likening them to neo-Nazis). Would you remove this content? It's racist and risks disrupting the project. — Czello 12:44, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't think all non-Korean nationalists are neo-Nazis. I just think 'Tochak Waigu' is evil and neo-Nazis. Japan is a clear anti-Korean racist country. This is in contrast to the elimination of anti-Semitism in Germany. (There is also anti-Semitism in Germany, but mainstream conservatives like CDU do not openly support it.) Mureungdowon (talk) 12:50, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

"Chaepo" motion

I think you might have the explain what chaepo is, as Google doesn't show any results for it. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 16:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

I think that probably means '체포'(arrest). Mureungdowon (talk) 20:38, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Right. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 20:40, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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Orthodox Peronism

Hello, how are you? Sorry for my ignorance, but where do you get the information that you are placing in the article? It seems a bit strange to me their definitions so determined. Also, many thanks for your contributions. Holiptholipt (talk) 02:11, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Classical Peronism was also closely associated with fascism. And I came across Peronism to some extent through Spanish Wikipedia and S.Korean media. Mureungdowon (talk) 02:15, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

OK, pero sabe sobre el peronismo ortodoxo, en específico? Yopollardo (talk) 02:17, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Un english please. Do you know something about orthodox Peronism, or do you just assume it?@Mureungdowon Holiptholipt (talk) 02:20, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

The classical Peronism wasn't fascsit Holiptholipt (talk) 02:34, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I talk about the 'Paternalistic conservatism' which Is the relación White the references? Holiptholipt (talk) 02:36, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

"Pro-Polish"

How come you removed it from the DPK's page? I mean it could've been worded differently, as there is no such thing as "pro-Polish", but the sentiment is there. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 14:21, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Because there was no mention of DPK from the sources I added. I will restore what you are saying in the near future. Mureungdowon (talk) 21:19, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Right :) ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 21:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Political correctness

Just to explain, I reverted your additions to 'PC'. I hope my reasons are self-explanatory, the content seems more about ant-Japanism in Korea than about 'PC' itself. I cannot comment on the quality of the content, since I can't actually read the sources, but we have a long-term position on the article that simple 'examples of use' are excluded. This is partly because there are simply too many things that have been described as 'PC', and partly because examples inevitably lead to WP:OR in analysing the meaning/explanation of the example. I cannot say for sure, but your content may, legitimately belong elsewhere on WP. Pincrete (talk) 07:19, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

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Nomination of Japanese privilege for deletion

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Trumpism

I found you had reverted my edit without any concrete reasons. You have not provided any reasonable rebuttal to the source claiming that Lee Jae-myung is associated with Trumpism. Bloomberg is considered a very neutral source, not a Japanese media outlet, and is recognized on Wikipedia as such. Additionally, Nikkei Asia is not a conservative news outlet, but rather a politically neutral media organization like Reuters or YTN in Korea. In contrast, sources related to Yoon Seok-yeol and Hong Joon-pyo are more questionable in terms of their credibility as they come from Korean media outlets that can represent certain political factions within the country.

My editing does not violate Wikipedia's RSP policy. On the other hand, it seems that your editing strongly represents a certain political faction in Korea, which may violate Wikipedia's NPOV policy.

Please remember that Wikipedia is not a place to advocate for your political position, but a place to provide neutral information.

Thank you. Jeff6045 (talk) 13:23, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

You have previously claimed that the DPK is a 'Centre-left to left-wing' party and that Lee Jae-myung is a 'far-left'. Your editing is not NPOV at all. Do not violate WP:3RR. Mureungdowon (talk) 13:27, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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April 2023

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for edit warring, as you did at Trumpism. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

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Jeff6045 made malicious and destructive edits in several articles. He caused editorial disputes in which Democratic Party of Korea's political position was often changed from "Centre to centre-left" to "Centre-left to left-wing". I had no choice but to stop his destructive editing. In his Trumpist article, he repeatedly described Lee Jae-myung as a Trumpist on the same line with figures such as Yoon Suk Yeol and Viktor Orban. Jeff6045 is not unaware of the 3RR regulation. Mureungdowon (talk) 14:09, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

No, he is not unaware. But he only made three reverts and decided to stop and seek outside input. You made four. Courcelles (talk) 14:13, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

However, the editing of Jeff6045 is a new one. My 4th edit was just to remove the new edit and then chat on talk. If 3RR is applied mechanically, Jeff6045 should proceed with the talk page with new content added. It gives other users false information that liberal politician Lee Jae-myung is a Trumpist. I think it is right to proceed with the talk page in its original state. I want you to unblock me first. Mureungdowon (talk) 14:17, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

No that is not happening. RickinBaltimore (talk) 14:19, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

That’s not how 3RR works. “ An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period.” Courcelles (talk) 14:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Jeff6045 deliberately set me up. The user is currently undermining Wikipedia with destructive editing. Jeff is now removed Hong Joon Pyo and Yoon Suk Yeol from Trumpism articles. In addition, he made the groundless claim that the Korea Herald is a media with a certain political color. He also defied WP:CON and removed numerous content from Democratic Party of Korea and People Power Party (South Korea) articles Mureungdowon (talk) 16:40, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

It seems that you have misunderstood my editing intentions. Let me explain it.

Firstly, regarding my edits on the topic of Trumpism, I felt that the evidence for the claims made in the article was quite weak, so I deleted that content and provided a detailed explanation on the talk page. If there are serious issues with my editing, other Wikipedia users can point them out on the talk page, and I am willing to consider their feedback.

Secondly, regarding my edits on Korean political parties, I felt that you included too much arbitrary information about them. According to Wikipedia's WP:RS guideline, it is not appropriate to present one person's opinion or perspective as if it were fact. However, you wrote the content as if it were factual, even though many of the claims lacked evidence. For example, there is no evidence to support the claim that the Democratic Party of Korea is portrayed as left-wing due to the conservative tilt of Korean politics. Additionally, the Info box contained too much information, including details about political factions and ideologies that should be explained in the article, not in the Info box, which is intended to provide brief information.

Lastly, I have left explanations on the talk page for all of my edits. This cannot be considered a violation of WP:CON, contrary to what you have claimed. Thank you. Jeff6045 (talk) 16:53, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Jeff even compared DPK's "liberal" to Bernie Sanders of the United States, but there is no mention of Bernie Sanders (버니 샌더스) in the Korean language he suggested. Jeff even claims on the talk page that there is a Juche supporter within the DPK, which is an unfair McCarthyism. Jeff is not capable of editing South Korean political articles because he is politically biased. Mureungdowon (talk) 16:46, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

It is not always possible for edits to be made according to your own thoughts. Please be considerate of other users' edits.

Please be calm and civil to other users. Jeff6045 (talk) 16:58, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

I suggest you just accept your current block and take a break until it runs out. If you continue using this page to attack another user, you may find yourself indefinitely blocked & have access to this page removed. Just let it go for now. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 18:05, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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Nippon Kaigi parliamentary members

Do you have any sources that indicate how many of them there are in parliament. The reason being is so it can be expressed in the infobox on the page, with notes to indicate the breakdown of which parties they are a part of. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 12:37, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Please reply back. ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 12:28, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

I don't know because I haven't looked up specific data about it. I only understand Japanese language fundamentally, but I am not very good at it. Mureungdowon (talk) 12:35, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Okay :) ValenciaThunderbolt (talk) 12:36, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

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Categorization

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Blocked as a sockpuppet

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The reason I created new account is not to avoid blocking, I just wanted to be free from stalking. I didn't create multiple accounts for malicious reasons. I want to continue editing with this account. I'm not going to edit with my strom598 account, and I'm not going to create another account.

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In that case, you should have gotten the block removed first. 331dot (talk) 20:40, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

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Before you changed accounts, you had been (or were on the verge of) being topic banned, and this account proceeded to edit articles the previous one had been banned from. I don't see that you were given notice of it on that account's talk page, but you were advised to stay away the topic of American politics. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 23:38, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

In terms of diplomacy, South Korean politics has some connection with American politics. Before I created my Strom598 account (I don't remember the account name) I edited it on Wikipedia for about 3 years with another account and then I stopped working, but I never got a topic ban or a block at that time. The reason I created a Storm598 account around 2020 was also to avoid stalking. I was in a very bad state of mental health then. It's not that I haven't edited American political articles with my "Mureungdowon" account, but I haven't edited them mostly. Mureungdowon (talk) 23:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)