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Changing infobox genre form "psychedelic rock" to "psychedelia"

On three or four occasions, I have tried changing the infobox genre on account of two facts:

no source in the article tags Barrett as "psychedelic rock"
Barrett is equally, if not more associated with "psychedelic pop" and "acid rock"
(compare: https://www.google.com/search?q="psychedelic+rock"+"syd+barrett"&tbm=bks to https://www.google.com/search?q="psychedelic+pop"+"syd+barrett"&tbm=bks and https://www.google.com/search?q="acid+rock"+"syd+barrett"&tbm=bks)

This gets reverted each time without a counterargument. What gives?--Ilovetopaint (talk) 13:08, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Erratic behaviour

Was Syd's erratic behaviour onstage - e.g. playing only one note or chord on his guitar for a whole show, detuning his guitar strings or not playing at all - caused by his use of LSD or was he deliberately sabotaging the concerts and TV appearances as a rebellion against record company pressures and pop success? There is a footage from late 1967 showing Mike Leonard doing light experiments with projectors and Pink Floyd are improvising some music with Syd playing his guitar without any incident and according to an interview with Rick Wright, there is indications that Syd sometimes played okay onstage, so these back up my question about Syd's erratic behaviour. 1.43.34.138 (talk) 04:44, 8 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a forum for asking general questions about the topic. This page is for discussions about improving the article. Binksternet (talk) 04:03, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Barrett's erratic behaviour generally is mentioned in a number of places in the article. If you have a good source for his erratic behaviour or stage, particularly with his guitar player, it might be possible to add it. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:51, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I just watched a Youtube documentary where David Gilmore makes the statement that he regards Barrett as an "LSD casualty", referring to a large number of young people that experimented with LSD and "never came back". There is room in this Article to place Barrett within that larger context, instead of simply connecting him to LSD, with no mention of what that might mean from the medical/mental health perspective. It's been several decades since then, and I assume there is research on what happens to the mind on LSD and what the permanent effects of it might be. Jordan Peterson also has something to say about the permanent effect of taking DMT (and other hallucinogens), to the extent that there is a significant and measurable (by objective, psychological testing) change in a person's personality. So much of Barrett's life, and the history of Pink Floyd is centered on the effects and/or consequences of LSD use, and there were so many people that were permanently destroyed by it, that the Article practically begs to have some mention made of this "larger context" and the profoundly permanent effects of taking LSD mentioned within the Article.

Tym Whittier (talk) 10:30, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article also cites David Gilmour saying that he felt that Syd Barrett had deep rooted mental health problems. In other words taking LSD may have been part of it, but he was and would have been mentally unstable regardless. As for the claims made by Jordan Peterson does he supply objective results and demonstrate what those changes were? What references does he cite? Not to mention claiming that profound experiences change people isn't anything inherently negative. I'm not aware that a lot of people were or are being permanently destroyed by LSD or any other similar hallucinogens, so this alleged larger context would require citing some unbiased sources. That LSD might cause permanent effects in itself means nothing, given that this can just as easily mean something positive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contribution

s/41.160.193.170|41.160.193.170]] (talk) 06:34, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since when is it okay on wikipedia to use some person who knows the person whose bio is written...and they say some random thing and then it's true? Are there any professional sources or biographies that agree with his bandmate?QueenofRods (talk) 00:55, 1 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Semantic error / correction

The following sentence (in the final paragraph of the article) is incorrect:

"Barrett had relationships with various women, such as Libby Gausden, Lindsay Korner, Jenny Spires and Iggy the Eskimo (aka Evelyn)."

He had relationships with women *including* those listed, not with women "such as" them. The latter means that the relationships were not with them specifically, but with women who were comparable in some unspecified way to those listed.

The sentence should be replaced by:

"Barrett had relationships with various women including Libby Gausden, Lindsay Korner, Jenny Spires and Iggy the Eskimo (aka Evelyn)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.56.4 (talk) 10:04, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Such as" is correct. Merriam Webster says it is "used to introduce an example or series of examples". (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/such%20as) Those women are examples of the various women he slept with. It shouldn't be changed. 2604:2000:EFC0:2:4DF6:6328:1154:9482 (talk) 02:27, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Tortuous"?

Did Gilmour really say, "[Sessions] were pretty tortuous and very rushed."? If so, then I'd include a [sic], because I think that most people would expect him to have said "torturous" instead. 2604:2000:EFC0:2:4DF6:6328:1154:9482 (talk) 02:25, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Change "Barrett was musically active for less than ten years." to "Barret was musically active for FEWER than ten years." It's grammatically incorrect. 108.41.41.137 (talk) 01:43, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: I believe the former is grammatically correct. Thanks for taking the time, though, to spellcheck this article. :) A a s i m 01:55, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fix marked tone issue in Health section.

Change "Other friends state that Barrett's flatmates, nicknamed Mad Jock and Mad Sue, believed that acid held all the answers..." to "Other friends state that Barrett's flatmates, nicknamed Mad Jock and Mad Sue, were of the belief that LSD was the source of Barrett's musical talent..." Pikgears (talk) 04:36, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That would be a ridiculous example of WP:SYNTH - follow what the RS says.

family on mental illness

I'd say this --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zi_o1_7zDc pretty much shows that his sister Rosemary realized he had some major mental issues. see the 21:29 mark ... 50.111.8.23 (talk) 15:36, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Iggy the Inuit, aka Evelyn Rose was not Pakistani born. She was born in Mizoram, India to a British father and Indian mother and came to live in the UK as a child. Supereditor2021 (talk) 01:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ◢ Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 02:02, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I want to change the detail about Evelyn “Iggy” Rose. Iggy is wrongly described as being Pakistani born, she was born in Mizoram, in what is now north east India. The detail in the article should be Mizoram - born. Umbrellapine (talk) 21:53, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Umbrellapine, Was it Pakistan when she was born? Generally we'll identify them by the country that controlled the area at the time of birth. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:05, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Re my previous request to change the detail on Evelyn Rose in the Syd Barrett Wikipedia article I should have included the information that I am her sister. Umbrellapine (talk) 22:00, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have combined this with the previous request above. RudolfRed (talk) 22:20, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Self-proclaimed anecdotal evidence is not sufficient. We need reliable sources to have published this somewhere. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]