Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 January 3

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January 3

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Sunni Muslim communities

Propose merging Category:Sunni Muslim communities to Category:Sunni Islam and Category:Muslim communities

Nominator's rationale: upmerge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Most countries do not require a Sunni communities subcategory, in case Sunni are in the majority anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Box-office bombs

Propose deleting Category:Box-office bombs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: There are several problems with such a category:

The term is highly subjective and we would end up with endless RFCs about whether this film or that film should be added to the category.
Profit/loss analysis is not widely available for most films. We do have a list of big flops at List of biggest box-office bombs and I think a list is better for this sort of thing where sources can be provided.
Unless it is something like Heaven's Gate, a film flopping is often not a defining trait, so many films that have technically flopped would fail WP:CATDEF. While Heaven's Gate would undoubtedly qualify for such a category, can the same be said about The Shawshank Redemption or Vertigo ?

These types of list have been routinely deleted in the past (see Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_July_6#Category:Box_Office_Bombs, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_December_30#Category:Theatrical_flops, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_April_20#Category:Box_Office_flops, Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_September_14#Category:Box_office_bombs) and to my knowledge there has been no fundamental shift of opinion. For example, by the same reasoning, we don't have a "Blockbusters" catgeory for films like Star Wars and Titanic. Betty Logan (talk) 04:38, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:CSD#G4 as recreation of substantially similar content without new rationale for retaining said category. VegaDark (talk) 05:27, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:30, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, this typically requires a sortable table instead of a category. The table exists in List of biggest box-office bombs. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:34, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]