Talk:Plaid (band)

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Favorite

What is your favorite Plaid album, EP or collaboration?

Double Figure, hands down. Matthew McVickar 06:54, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

At the moment it has to be Not For Threes for me. A complete masterpiece. Craptree 15:45, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is Spokes worth getting? I like 'Even Spring' a lot but have heard the rest of the album is rather dull. What say you?

I say Spokes is tremendous. Perhaps not as immediately catchy or engaging as some of their other material, but definitely awesome. Matthew McVickar 00:48, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, Spokes album is quite strong. This year I was at Optronica festival, London. Plaid played some new material and it was very good!

I saw this live performance too, it was awesome! Too bad track with TV noise will never be released. :( -- Kowarisuki 10:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tracks to look out for on Spokes: Even Spring Zeal Marry

yeah, the rest aren't that good in my oppinion, but the above three more than make up for it. Classic. Oh, make sure you buy everything plaid have ever done, they're my fave band. Get Black dog stuff too.

the "zeal" video is pretty stellar if you can find it. -robey

anybody wanna add a mention of the tekkon kinkreet soundtrack they did? -john

I'm gonna do it. -- Kowarisuki 10:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article name

Would it at all make sense to change the word, "band" in the article to, "artist"? By definition, the word 'band' really does not apply to Plaid. Maybe this is just petty opinion, and thus I'm asking here before I just go move it. So what do you think? .:bleaked

I say keep it as it is. -- Kowarisuki 10:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

INFO REQUEST: I have inherited parts in the post, spokes, rest proof clockwork and double figure...can anyone recommend some top tracks from each? Thanks! R 19.03.2008

Pronunciation

In interviews, Handley and Turner have always pronounced Plaid as "plad", with a caveat that they don't care whether or not people pronounce it "played" or "plad". There is an online interview in which Handley mentions that the Welsh word "plaid" is pronounced "pla-eed", but he never suggested that's how the group's name should be pronounced.--Sonance (talk) 17:21, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Female Collaborations

I think perhaps Allison Goldfrapp should be mentioned as a featured female vocalist for her work on "Face Me" (Restproof's hidden track). I guess it is only 1 song but notable.

Either way, Coppe' should be added as well since they have done a number of songs for her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.220.13.184 (talk) 05:59, 20 October 2008 (UTC) 67.220.13.184 (talk) 06:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete Discography

I noticed a number of missing albums. They are not all in need of mentioning but at the very least their significant P-Brane EP should garner a spot on the list (some of their best work).

march 6th

says who?? cite references! ps the date has passed..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lotsofmagnets (talk • contribs) 06:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Scintilli

I´m intending to remove it from the discography as theyæve stopped talking about it and 2010 is nearly over and since the album has been slated for release as early as 2008 it´s becomming clear that it´s either not going to be released at all or it´s still in the future.--Lotsofmagnets (talk) 11:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reads like a list?

Does anybody know of a tag that says this article reads like a list? I think that a tag like that would be more appropriate than the one I found. It's, however, the only one I found in short notice. If anyone knows of one, either replace it with the one I put, or let me know where I can find it on my talk page. Thanks. Lighthead ^þ 21:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 July 2018

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The result of the move request was: Not moved, per consensus here and also precedent set at Talk:The Ghost (Faroese band)#Requested move 28 July 2018 — Amakuru (talk) 19:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Plaid (band) → Plaid (duo) – Not a band per WP:BANDDAB. The editor whose username is Z0 17:30, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. bd2412 T 01:24, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This is a duo of electronic musicians. They play electronic musical instruments. Chubbles (talk) 01:33, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as proposed. WP:BANDDAB says "Use either '(band)' or '(duo)' when the musical ensemble is a duet." It does not deprecate the use of "(band)" in these cases. Dekimasuよ! 02:30, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the guidance on WP:BANDDAB says "Use either '(band)' or '(duo)' when the musical ensemble is a duet." Maybe we should remove the (duo) option as it adds nothing In ictu oculi (talk) 07:55, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - a band makes it more imprecise because there could be 2 to an infinite number of members whereas duo shows there is only 2 members in the group. A band is defined as "a group of instrumentalists playing music of a specialized type". This music group is a duo of electronic musicians who are not instrumentalists (players of a musical instrument). In popular culture, a band is typically a group of 4-5 people who sing, play the guitar, drums, bass, etc. Calling a group of 2 musicians a band is simply inaccurate and improper although literally they could fit the scope. @Chubbles: @Dekimasu: please consider reconsidering. Not only (duo) makes it easier to categorize music groups consisting of 2 members, it also distinguishes electronic music groups from regular music groups. The editor whose username is Z0 08:05, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1) To this point, I think everyone has been fairly accepting of the fact that you filed 30 individual move requests instead of a multimove. However, please understand that it's annoying to get over 30 page notifications for the same comment–and then getting 30 edit conflicts after you edit the comment with the ping in it. If the issues at hand are the same, please pick one talk page and have the rest of the discussion there.

2) There is nothing inaccurate or improper about calling a band with two members a band. Musical ensemble#Two parts: "Examples of two-member bands are Japandroids, Local H, Pet Shop Boys, Hella, Flight of the Conchords, Death from Above 1979, Francis Xavier, I Set My Friends On Fire, Middle Class Rut, The Pity Party, Little Fish, The White Stripes, Big Business, Two Gallants, Lightning Bolt, The Ting Tings, The Black Box Revelation, Satyricon, The Black Keys, Tenacious D, Simon and Garfunkel, Hall & Oates, Johnossi, The Pack A.D., Air Supply and Royal Blood. When electronic sequencers became widely available in the 1980s, this made it easier for two-member bands to add in musical elements that the two band members were not able to perform. Sequencers allowed bands to pre-program some elements of their performance, such as an electronic drum part and a synth-bass line. Two-member pop music bands such as Soft Cell, Blancmange, Yazoo and Erasure used pre-programmed sequencers." In fact, this shows why it is easier to have two-person bands when electronic music is involved. As Chubbles stated, electronic music is music made using electronic musical instruments. It isn't necessary to require a band to be analog.

3) The proposal referenced a particular naming convention, but the moves do not follow from that naming convention. Dekimasuよ! 08:22, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Reply to Dekimasu: I'm not saying a two-member band is incorrect but it's just less preferred compared to duo. Musical ensemble#Two parts says two-member rock and pop bands are relatively rare and they are mostly rock and pop groups not electronic music duos that are the subjects of these move discussions. Wikipedia's preference is usually the one most commonly used. Bands play musical instruments unlike electronic musicians who use digital audio workstation (DAW) to produce their music. DAW is not a musical instrument but a computer software. As for the naming convention, it did say to use either "(band)" or "(duo)" when the musical ensemble is a duet, as in duo for the duet and band for others. That precisely supports my argument so I'm not sure why you said "the moves do not follow from that naming convention". The editor whose username is Z0 08:48, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the discussion for the general issue of whether electronic duos are accurately described as bands seems to be coalescing at Talk:The Ghost (Faroese band). Chubbles (talk) 10:34, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

See Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (music)/Disambiguation#"band" preferred to "duo". Andrewa (talk) 01:21, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Nationality

This is a band who apparently live in England but have a Welsh name. Fortunately, there's a simple category which covers both, and is their actual nationality too: British. Perhaps we should use it?HuginAndNotMunin (talk) 10:31, 3 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]