Talk:Louis Malet de Graville/GA1
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Nominator: Yakikaki (talk · contribs) 19:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Kimikel (talk · contribs) 20:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello, I will be reviewing this article as part of the January GAN drive. Please expect comments from me within the next few days. Kimikel (talk) 20:02, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Yakikaki: If I'm honest, this is my favorite type of article: biographies of a somewhat obscure historical figure. As such, I enjoyed this article quite a bit. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns regarding my suggestions below. Thank you. Kimikel (talk) 15:39, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Kimikel: Thanks for the kind words! It seems we share an interest in this kind of articles. I stumbled across Louis during a short vacation in France last year and became increasingly fascinated. So thanks for taking the time to review this little labour of love! I have started adjusting it accordingly and will ping you again once I am done. Have a pleasant Friday! Yakikaki (talk) 16:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Well-written
- I would recommend replacing almost every time you call him by his full name with just "Louis" or "Malet de Graville".
- Fixed
- When you start a sentence with "In [year]" or "By [year]" I would put a comma after the year.
- Fixed
Lead
- Around 1440 > i would recommend c. here
- Fixed
- Louis Malet de Gravile's > Louis Malet de Graville's
- Fixed
- Louis' youngest daughter, Anne de Graville (c. 1490–1540), was a writer, courtier, intellectual and book collector in her own right. > Since you are starting the lead with his family background, jumping ahead to his daughter breaks the timeline a bit. I would leave this out of the lead entirely.
- Done
- In 1463 Louis de Malet's father was taken prisoner by English troops. Louis Male de Graville > Here you use two versions of his name that seem to be nonstandard, is this intentional?
- Nope, just a couple of plain old errors. Fixed.
- Anne, became a central member > Anne, becoming a central member OR Anne and became a central member
- Fixed
- During a period from 1491, he > Beginning in 1491, he... Also, the first time he's mentioned in a paragraph, he needs to be mentioned by name
- Fixed
Heraldry
- background; or, in heraldic terms, its blazon would be: gules, three buckles or. > background, or, in heraldic terms, gules, three buckles or.
- Fixed
- Louis Malet de Gravile > Louis Malet de Graville.
- Fixed
- illuminated manuscripts, and the buildings he built or repaired, profusely decorated > illustrated(?) manuscripts and the buildings he built or repaired heavily decorated
- Partially fixed – I kept "illuminated manuscripts" but added a wikilink to the article, as it is strictly speaking a book which is even more elaborately decorated than just by illustrations.
Biography
- His father, Jean VI, > Louis needs to be mentioned by name (start of paragraph)
- In 1472, he undertook a trip to the County of Armagnac, possibly to negotiate with the rebellious Count John V, a delicate journey indicating that Louis enjoyed a high degree of trust from the king early on. In 1472, possibly to negotiate with the rebellious Count John V, he undertook a trip to the County of Armagnac, a delicate journey indicating that Louis enjoyed a high degree of trust from the king early on.
- In 1467 he was entrusted > this should come before the events in 1472 and 1475 (unless you meant 1477 here)
- (who at the time was only 13 years old) > commas instead of parentheses
- Anne, became a central member > Anne, becoming a central member OR Anne and became a central member
- recently been instrumental in defeating > context for when/in which war would be good here
- distanced him to > distanced him from
- He died on > merge with previous parargaph
Legacy
- Also other conflicts, > Other conflicts,
- to designs by > based on designs by
- Grodecki has described > Grodecki described
- His library consisted > clarify that it's Louis' library, not Claude d'Urfe's
- Notably, the library > The library
- (United States) > remove
Illustrated
- One caption misspells his name as de Gravile
- Images are correctly tagged and are well-implemented
Neutrality, stability, and broadness
- No issues
Verifiability
- Title translations for French sources would be helpful
- Spaces before colons in titles (ie "Courtisans à Paris autour de 1500 :) should be removed
- The URLs for Deldicque's books (and possibly others) lead to pages about the book, but not the text of the book itself. In these cases, no URL should be used unless you can find one that has the text of the book.