Talk:List of sopranos in non-classical music

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Citations

May I ask who created this page? As much as I appreciate that it is a good idea there are some seriously questionable references being used ie blogging sites etc? For example Christina Aguilera (Although I believe she is indeed a soprano). I wonder if the person that made up the page would be able to find citations that are more reliable? I will try to hunt some refs down too.BrotherDarksoul (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:59, 20 September 2011.

I didn't create this page, but yes, you are absolutely right. The list is worthless without references to reliable sources. Fansites, blogs, Yahoo answers, forum postings etc. are not reliable sources. Names with citations to sources like that should be removed to the talk page until a reliable source is found. Likewise, unreferenced additions constitute original research and will be removed. This list is not the place to post individual editors' personal opinions. Voceditenore (talk) 11:50, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Names

Anette Olzon

Another blogging site reference. Not a reliable source. Name can be re-applied to list when reliable source can be found. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 05:37, 04 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anastacia

Unfortunately yet another citation gained from a blogging site. Will happily have the information replaced when a reliable source can be found. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 05:51, 04 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Again removed due to the same source being used. Please please please do not add her to the list without some kind decent citations ie from a review from an established paper/mag stating her range as the people that state such data are employed and certified much better to do so than some random on a blog. Many thanks for the effort but better sources are needed before the data can stay on the page. Thanks BrotherDarksoul (talk) 03:44, 23 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Leona Lewis

Her name was added with a citation to a source that clearly stated she had a Mezzo range - please unless another more reliable source claiming that she is a soprano can she be kept on the Mezzo list BrotherDarksoul (talk) 21:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lea Michele

The article states "my voice grew a lot. I started off as a quiet soprano, but over the years, my voice opened up to a legit belter", Michele is now more comfortably labelled as a Mezzo-Soprano. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.90.207.89 (talk) 08:33, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did she say that she was a mezzo? It looks like she's didn't. So it stays until someone else says otherwise.

Tribal44 (talk) 14:52, 23 October 2011 (UTC)Tribal44[reply]

Little Boots

Again another artist added to the list without having any sources. Please if you wish to add names to the list have the necessary and reliable citations. Thank you. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 23:46, 01 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lana del Rey

Citation unreliable, also after reading the Born to Die page she pretty much admits she sings lower than most females, there is even a byte in regards to her being a contralto??? If she is going to be added here please find better sourcing. Thanks. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 10:12, February 2012 (UTC)

Please note that new and far superior citations have been acquired and Del Rey is now on the List of contraltos in non-classical music page, thanks. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 10:03, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Charice

Source given stated nothing about her soprano range. Please ensure sources state clearly that the singer possesses or sings predominantly in the range appropriate for the page. Thanks. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 09:26, 07 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Patti LaBelle

Removed due to no citation added, as much as I believe she is a soprano there is no source to state that she actually is. Will try and hunt one down in the meantime, thanks. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 23:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now added back onto list with citations! :) BrotherDarksoul (talk) 08:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions for the list

Demi Lovato

"SUGGESTION" Can you Please put Demi Lovato in this list??Check her vocal range... It's Quite high

Lovato can certainly go on the list when a source stating that she sings in a soprano voice can be found, until then we try not to keep names without citations on the list otherwise it can leave the page with misleading or incorrect data. I will try and hunt down some citations though in the meantime. Thanks for the heads up though. BrotherDarksoul (talk) 03:13, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Photo layout

Actually, this photo layout is really not helpful and makes the page look like a poorly designed website rather than an encyclopedia article. The reader has to scroll past a whole screenload of images before they can even get to the list. Plus, images of this size seriously increase the loading time for readers on slow internet connections and cause problems for the visually impaired using screen readers. (Note: I am not visually impaired, have a very large screen and a fast internet connection.) And why are they presented in this unwieldy and non-standard table format with empty caption spaces appearing beneath them, further confusing and cluttering the layout? What is wrong with following Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images and placing them down the right-hand side at intervals, in smaller sizes, with standard captions below the image as also recommended by Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility? Or alternatively if you all insist on grouping them horizontally like this, using the standard gallery format? Voceditenore (talk) 08:11, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Celine Dion?

She's not a Soprano, she's a Mezzo-soprano. Penpaperpencil (Talk) 06:31, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Laura Branigan was not a soprano.

The two cited articles are completely erroneous; Laura Branigan was by no means a soprano. She was actually a contralto and was widely known as such. Her voice was deep and dark, stronger in the lower registers. Contrary to the description of a soprano on this page, her voice was not bright or ringing, nor was it strong in the head register. Her voice sounded comfortable and natural in the lower registers.

It is way too easy to simply cite articles without doing extensive research of your own. Just listen to the characteristics of Laura Branigan's voice versus true sopranos and you will see that she was not a soprano.

Here are several articles which indeed refer to her as a contralto (though they use the erroneous short term, "alto," they clearly mean "contralto"):

http://thenynthlife.com/2012/09/14/righteous-rewind-laura-branigan-covers-power-of-love/ http://popdose.com/future-retro-laura-branigan/ http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands/Laura-Branigan/37873/ http://80music.about.com/od/artistsae/p/Laura-Branigan-Artist-Profile.htm http://www.80smusiclyrics.com/artists/laurabranigan.htm http://branigan.info/biography/

I will be removing Laura Branigan from the List of Sopranos in non-classical music. As soon as I figure out how, I will add her to the List of Contraltos in non-classical music.68.44.138.213 (talk) 06:59, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]