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Jimmy Carter Former president of the United States and Nobel Peace Prize laureate Jimmy Carter (pictured) dies at the age of 100. Jeju Air Flight 2216 crashes at Muan International Airport, South Korea, killing 179 people. Acting president and prime minister of South Korea Han Duck-soo is impeached by the National Assembly. Former prime minister of India Manmohan Singh dies at the age of 92. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war Israeli invasion of Lebanon Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Recent deaths: Bill Bergey M. T. Vasudevan Nair Helmut Schlesinger Michael Burkard Charles Dolan Richard Perry view — page history — related changes — edit

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December 17

Portal:Current events/2021 December 17

December 17, 2021 (2021-12-17) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war Rojava conflict Rioters burn down the office of the Kurdish National Council in Dirbêsiyê, Syria, injuring four people. (Kurdistan24) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Israeli settlers burst into several villages in the occupied West Bank, beating and injuring at least two people. (Al Jazeera) Karen conflict Around 2,500 Karen refugees cross the Myanmar–Thailand border into Thailand. (CP24) War in Donbas A Ukrainian soldier is killed and another is injured after pro-Russian separatist forces targeted Ukrainian positions near Mariupol with rocket-propelled grenades and mortars. (The Guardian) Business and economy 2018–2021 Turkish currency and debt crisis The Turkish lira plunges to an all-time low of 17.0705 to the U.S. dollar, triggering a direct central bank intervention in the stock market. The lira has lost 55% of its value this year, including 37% in just the last 30 days. President Recep Erdoğan announces a 50% rise in the minimum wage from next year. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Typhoon Rai Twelve people are killed as Typhoon Rai impacts the Philippines, causing severe damage. (Al Jazeera) Eight people are killed and many more are injured by floods in Erbil, Kurdistan Region, Iraq. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Cambodia Cambodia surpasses 3,000 deaths from COVID-19. (The Star) COVID-19 pandemic in Mongolia Mongolia reports no COVID-19 deaths in the past 24 hours for the first time since April 4. (Manila Bulletin) COVID-19 pandemic in Qatar Qatar reports its first four cases of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in three fully vaccinated people and an unvaccinated person who all travelled abroad. (The Peninsula) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Finland The Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare reissues a nationwide face mask mandate recommendation in public space and public transport for adults aged 12 years and older due to the rising number of COVID-19 cases. (Yle) COVID-19 pandemic in France, COVID-19 vaccination in France The French National Consultation Ethical Committee approves the administration of the COVID-19 vaccine for children between the ages of 5 and 11 years. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Spain President of Asturias Adrián Barbón is admitted to hospital when his health condition worsens after testing positive for COVID-19. (El Periódico) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The United Kingdom reports a record for the third consecutive day of 93,045 new cases of COVID-19. (Sky News) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia Australia reports a record 3,837 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, including a record 2,213 cases in New South Wales. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada Canada ends a travel ban on many African nations, including Nigeria and South Africa. (Peoples Gazette) COVID-19 pandemic in Egypt Egypt reports its first three cases of the Omicron variant. (Asian News International) International relations Russia–NATO relations Russia demands that NATO end all military activity in Eastern Europe and never admit Ukraine as a member of the military alliance, saying that it wants a legally binding guarantee to end further eastward NATO expansion. Other demands include a Russian veto on Ukrainian membership in NATO, the removal of U.S. nuclear weapons from Europe, and the withdrawal of multinational NATO battalions from Poland and the Baltics. (Reuters) A senior Biden regime official says that the U.S. is "prepared to discuss Russia's proposals" with its NATO allies, but says that "there are some things in those documents that the Russians know will be unacceptable." (Axios) Law and crime 2021 Osaka building fire Twenty-four people are killed and four more are injured during an arson attack at a medical clinic in Osaka, Japan. (The Japan Times) Facebook exposes a group of spy firms that could affect the private security of over 50,000 people. (The Times of India) Politics and elections Elections in the United Kingdom 2021 North Shropshire by-election Helen Morgan of the Liberal Democrats wins North Shropshire, a seat in the British House of Commons which the Conservative Party has held since the constituency's creation. (BBC News) Brazil, Denmark, Latvia, Poland, Slovakia, the United Kingdom and the United States issue a joint condemnation of the worldwide persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses. (The Washington Times)

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Typhoon Rai

Article: Typhoon Rai (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Thousands of people fled their homes as Typhoon Rai hits Philippines (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, Al-Jazeera, Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)

 Ainty Painty (talk) 05:50, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Log4Shell

Article: Log4Shell (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Log4Shell, a zero-day exploit, is publicly disclosed, possibly affecting hundreds of millions of devices. (Post)
News source(s): Ars Technica, Financial Times, Wired
Credits:

• Nominated by WMrapids (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Although this may not the sexiest news event, it possibly has some of the largest impacts. Many sources describing this as one of the most severe if not "the most severe vulnerability ever". 1 Estimated that hundreds of millions of devices were affected by this with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency director calling Log4Shell "one of the most serious I’ve seen in my entire career, if not the most serious". This happened a few days ago, but we are now learning about the impact. WMrapids (talk) 02:09, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Reports are calling this a major cyber incident and while the fallout is presently low (compared to something like the Ukraine cyberattacks a few years back), the resolution is not well known and its clear parties are trying to exploit it. --Masem (t) 02:13, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
• This is somewhat stale, as it was announced on 9 December, and patched three days earlier. IT folks have been running around fixing this for more than a week and a half now. Stephen 05:21, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

  Yes, this story is a week old.  Nixinova   T   C   07:30, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

December 16

Portal:Current events/2021 December 16

December 16, 2021 (2021-12-16) (Thursday) Armed conflicts and attacks Syrian civil war Iran–Israel conflict during the Syrian civil war, Israel's role in the Syrian civil war Israeli warplanes launch overnight airstrikes in southern Syria, with missiles originating from the Golan Heights, killing a soldier and causing some material damage, according to a Syrian military official. Syrian air defences engaged the Israeli missiles, with most missiles reportedly intercepted. (The Times of Israel) Operation Shader The United Kingdom's Ministry of Defence says a Royal Air Force Typhoon has shot down a "small hostile drone" over Syria. It is the first enemy aircraft shot down by an RAF pilot since the Falklands War. (BBC News) Israeli–Palestinian conflict Gunmen open fire on a car carrying settlers near the outpost of Homesh, in the occupied West Bank, killing one person and wounding two more. (CNN) Disasters and accidents Typhoon Rai Thousands of people are evacuated from their homes in central and southern Philippines as Typhoon Rai, described as one of the strongest storms of the year, begins to make landfall in mid-eastern parts of the country, with warnings of very destructive typhoon-force winds. (Al Jazeera) Five children are killed and four others are injured after falling from an inflatable castle that was blown into the air in Devonport, Tasmania, Australia. (ABC News Australia) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia Indonesia reports its first case of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in an hospital cleaning employee at the Kemayoran Athletes Village in Jakarta with no overseas travel history. (The Independent) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan, COVID-19 vaccination in Japan Japan officially approves the usage of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine as a booster dose for people over the age of 18 years. This comes after health ministry experts recommended the vaccine yesterday. (CNA) COVID-19 pandemic in Malaysia The Malaysian government announces that due to the threat of the Omicron variant, there will be a ban on all large-scale Christmas and New Year's Eve celebrations. The government will also require people over the age of 60 as well as adults who received the Sinovac Coronavac vaccine to receive a booster dose before February in order to maintain their full vaccination status. (Malay Mail) COVID-19 pandemic in the State of Palestine The Palestinian Authority reports its first cases of the Omicron variant in three people from different cities in the West Bank who travelled abroad. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Denmark COVID-19 drug development The Danish Health Authority approves the usage of the Molnupiravir antiviral pill developed by Merck & Co. for at-risk patients with symptoms, becoming the first EU country to authorize the usage of this drug. (NDTV) Denmark reports a record 9,999 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (CPH Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Germany, COVID-19 vaccination in Germany Germany administers a record 1.5 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine in the past 24 hours. (The Guardian) COVID-19 pandemic in Italy, Travel during the COVID-19 pandemic Italy imposes mandatory COVID-19 testing for all travellers from European Union countries and mandates a five-day quarantine on arrival for those who are unvaccinated due to an increase in the number of COVID-19 cases and the spread of the Omicron variant in Europe. (Bloomberg) COVID-19 pandemic in Poland Poland reports its first case of the Omicron variant in a 30-year-old Mosotho woman who is currently in isolation in a hospital in the city of Katowice. (The First News) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The United Kingdom reports a record for the second consecutive day of 88,376 new cases of COVID-19. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Malawi Malawi announces that public service workers, healthcare workers and journalists will be required to be vaccinated against COVID-19 beginning on December 20 amid an increase in the number of COVID-19 infections. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand New Zealand reports its first case of the Omicron variant in a fully vaccinated person who travelled from Germany and is currently isolated at a managed isolation quarantine facility in Christchurch. (New Zealand Herald) History of COVID-19 vaccine development The WHO issues interim recommendations for mixing and matching COVID-19 vaccine for second and booster shot, where mRNA-based vaccines can be used as subsequent doses after initial doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine and vice versa, while these vaccines can be used after initial doses of Sinopharm's inactived vaccine. (Reuters) Politics and elections Caretaker Prime Minister of the Netherlands Mark Rutte is appointed as formateur and tasked with forming a new coalition government following the conclusion of the 2021 cabinet formation. (Politico)

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RD: Henry Orenstein

Article: Henry Orenstein (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1], [2], [3]
Credits:

• Nominated by Mooonswimmer (talk · give credit)
• Created by Kicking222 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Recent death —Mooonswimmer (talk) 16:21, 16December 2021 (UTC)

• Lot of the citations are primary or iffy. However, the Newsweek ref could be used to reference a lot of that material. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:11, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Thwaites glacier has been destabilized

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Thwaites Glacier (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Thwaites Glacier is at risk of accelerated melting, raising global sea levels by feet within the next decades (Post)
News source(s): NBC, CIRES
Credits:

• Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: "“Thwaites is the widest glacier in the world,” said Ted Scambos, a senior research scientist at the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES). “It’s doubled its outflow speed within the last 30 years, and the glacier in its entirety holds enough water to raise sea level by over two feet. And it could lead to even more sea-level rise, up to 10 feet, if it draws the surrounding glaciers with it.” " Count Iblis (talk) 04:31, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose -- although it is interesting news, this does not rise to blurb-worthy significance, particularly since this has been occurring over a long period of time. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 05:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as has been stated before, ITN is really not a good place for forecasts/predictions/scientific-based speculation on future impact of climate change. If there was some actual significant event that could be documented (we posted when the Larson ice shelf broke off in 2017 Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/July 2017) that would be news, but even if it is well-backed by science, hand-waving claims like this are not good ITN stories. --Masem (t) 05:51, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose good faith nomination, but this is not the right place for speculation. If it happens and if there's a big impact of it, then that would be ITN-worthy. But we don't post scientific predictions/speculation here. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:12, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Per previous votes. Not seen in main RS news Thursday. – Sca (talk) 13:30, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose DYK. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 14:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

December 15

Portal:Current events/2021 December 15

December 15, 2021 (2021-12-15) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2020–2021 Ethiopian–Sudanese clashes The Sudanese Armed Forces announces that they are in "full control" of the disputed Al Fushqa District after clashing with Ethiopian forces in the border region. (Africa News) Disasters and accidents A boat carrying Indonesian migrants capsizes off the southern coast of Malaysia, killing 11 people and leaving 25 others missing. (Al Jazeera) A privately-owned Gulfstream GIVSP jet crashes near Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic, killing all nine people onboard, including Puerto Rican music producer Flow La Movie. (Reuters) A fire occurs at the World Trade Centre Hong Kong, injuring 13 people and leaving 300 others trapped within the building. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Denmark Mary, Crown Princess of Denmark tests positive for COVID-19. (7 News) COVID-19 pandemic in France, COVID-19 vaccination in France France begins to require people aged above 65 years to receive a COVID-19 vaccine booster dose or lose their Health Pass validity status unless they show proof of a negative test in the previous 24 hours. The requirement will be extended to all age groups from January 15. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Hungary, COVID-19 vaccination in Hungary Hungary begins administering the COVID-19 vaccine for children between the ages of 5 and 11 years using the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine. (Hungary Today) COVID-19 pandemic in Slovenia Slovenia reports its first cases of the Omicron variant in four samples from people in the Ljubljana region who tested positive between November 29 and December 6. (See News) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom COVID-19 pandemic in England, COVID passports in the United Kingdom The NHS COVID pass begins to be implemented in England as a precondition in order to enter nightclubs, indoor events with more than 500 people, outdoor events with more than 4,000 people, and all events with more than 10,000 people as part of "Plan B" measures that are intended to reduce the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant. (ITV News) The United Kingdom reports a record 78,610 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours. (BBC News) European Union response to the COVID-19 pandemic The European Medicines Agency recommends that adults over the age of 18 years who received the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine should get a booster dose two months after receiving their first dose of the vaccine. (The Times of India) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Cambodia Cambodia reports its first case of the Omicron variant in a 22-year-old woman who travelled from Ghana. (CNA) COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines The Philippines reports its first two imported cases of the Omicron variant in an overseas Filipino who travelled from Japan on December 1 and a Nigerian national who arrived in the country on November 30. (Rappler) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea reports a record 7,850 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 536,495. (Yonhap News Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Oceania COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand COVID-19 vaccination in New Zealand The number of people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in New Zealand surpasses 90%. (Stuff) Auckland reopens its domestic borders to travellers who are vaccinated or who have tested negative in the previous 72 hours after closing its borders for four months due to an outbreak of the Delta variant. (RNZ) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia Australia reopens its borders to vaccinated skilled migrants and foreign students without an exemption, after a closure of more than 18 months due to the pandemic, despite the worldwide spread of the Omicron variant. (ABC News Australia) COVID-19 pandemic in Africa COVID-19 pandemic in Kenya Kenya reports its first three cases of the Omicron variant. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Rwanda Rwanda reports its first six cases of the Omicron variant in a group of travellers and their contacts, prompting the government to close all nightclubs and extend the quarantine for international travellers to three days. (MedicalXpress) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in California California reimposes its indoor mask mandate due to fears of the spread of the Omicron variant. The mandate will last until at least January 15. (The New York Times) Law and crime Cannabis in Malta Malta legalizes the personal use and limited cultivation of cannabis, becoming the first country in the European Union to do so. (Reuters) One person is killed, eleven others are injured and more people are unaccounted for after an arson attack at a four-storey block of flats in Reading, England. A suspect has been arrested. (BBC News) A court in Hanoi, Vietnam, sentences two Facebook users to lengthy jail sentences for "conducting propaganda against the state". One man was sentenced to 10 years in prison and five years of house arrest while another man was given a six-year prison term and three years of house arrest. (Reuters) David Fuller, a double murderer who sexually abused the corpses of more than 100 women, is sentenced to a whole life tariff. (BBC News) Politics and elections Siaosi Sovaleni becomes prime minister-designate of Tonga. (RNZ)

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RD: Fayez Tarawneh

Article: Fayez Tarawneh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/jordan/2021/12/15/former-jordanian-pm-fayez-tarawneh-dead-at-72/
Credits:

• Updated by KittenKlub (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Does RD have the stomach for another short (300 words) wikibio? Anyone familiar with Middle Eastern politics are encouraged to help beef up this wikibio for a former PM of Jordan. --PFHLai (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 08:01, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: bell hooks

Article: bell hooks (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Lexington Herald-Leader, The Guardian, USA Today, NPR, NBC News, NYT, Wall St. Journal, BBC News, AlJazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Tom Morris (talk · give credit)
• Created by AntonioMartin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by LorenzFuchs (talk · give credit), AleatoryPonderings (talk · give credit), Innisfree987 (talk · give credit) and SusanLesch (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Just died - prominent American academic and activist —Tom Morris (talk) 18:00, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article has a few more citations needed. -SusanLesch (talk) 20:55, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Strong support: came here to see if she was up on RD yet. Immediate international coverage (Guardian, BBC, ABC, won't list them all), hugely influential figure. Article is plenty good enough (despite the tags). — Bilorv (talk) 22:22, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Strong support: Important and influential thinker. Article looks fine, some of the citations could do with formatting improvements. ClaudineChionh (talk – contribs) 22:59, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Strong support- A major figure in Black feminism. -TenorTwelve (talk) 23:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Strong support - Right up there with Angela Davis and Octavia Butler. EvergreenFir (talk) 23:25, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Even if all of the stars in the universe strongly supported, this won't be posted with two orange tags. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:44, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support as notability is unquestioned; issues with OR do need to be resolved, it appears those are being worked on. Once that situation is cleared this should be posted. Radagast (talk) 00:03, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support on quality, as major issues appear to have been addressed. Obviously a hugely important figure, but per the instructions above that's not the focus here. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 01:58, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment There a still a couple of cn tags to be dealt with. Pawnkingthree (talk) 02:08, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment - There are few issues that needs to be addressed before posting. The article has, as far as can see, two cn tags and one bsn tag. People here seems to forget that RDs are posted based on article quality only.--Kacamata! ^Dimmi!!! 02:10, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. TJMSmith (talk) 02:35, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) New prime minister of Tonga

Article: Siaosi Sovaleni (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Siaosi Sovaleni is elected Prime Minister of Tonga by the legislature. (Post)
News source(s): SCMP, Matangi Tonga
Credits:

• Nominated by Joofjoof (talk · give credit)
• Updated by IdiotSavant (talk · give credit)

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The general election was last month. Joofjoof (talk) 11:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Both article are in good shape and well referenced. KittenKlub (talk) 11:58, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Seems sufficient. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:02, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. Although I wouldn't link the election article if it wasn't to mention in the blurb something along the lines of "after winning the election". _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:13, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Weak support with just Siaosi Sovaleni article bolded. That article is just about long enough for front page (would be good to add any more information about him if more info exists). Bolding the 2021 Tongan general election implies that that election caused him to take office, which isn't the case, as he was elected by the Legislative Assembly of Tonga afterwards. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:27, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Aren't prime ministerial/premiership elections indirect elections? How was the new German chancellor phrased (w/o the Merkel part)? Howard the Duck (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
    • Tonga has a formal process for electing its PM, with a parliamentary vote after each election or whenever the office is vacant. Its not a Westminster system, parties are weak (and not even legally recognised in the election process), and the structure of the Legislative Assembly (17 PRs, 9 nobles) makes the process highly uncertain.--IdiotSavant (talk) 23:10, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to me. NW1223(^{Howl at me}/_{My hunts}) 16:15, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment this is technically ITN/R due to the wording of the instructions but not in keeping with the spirit of it. The 2021 Tongan general election was the thing to post, the legislature carrying out the formal act of "electing" Sovaleni was a foregone conclusion. We didn't post or even nominate that election, but this feels like a loophole. The election should stay in the blurb, should be bold, and should be held to a high quality standard as the election was the trigger for the change. --LaserLegs (talk) 19:15, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

LaserLegs In this case, it wasn't a foregone conclusion, because most of the deputies are independent. Even the two candidates for prime minister (Sovaleni and Eke) are not affiliated to any party.KittenKlub (talk) 19:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

This article covers the coalition building in detail. Joofjoof (talk) 19:38, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Most of those "independents" all rage quit the Democratic Party of the Friendly Islands it was essentially a third party calling itself "independent" of which Sovaleni is the leader. Come on. --LaserLegs (talk) 19:52, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

I think this article might show how uncertain it was (I was actually surprised that the nobles didn't do their usual and unite behind the minority candidate). As for most of the independents being former PTOA, that's due to the history of their extremely recent democracy, and its worth noting that most were elected against PTOA (and PTOA factional) candidates.--IdiotSavant (talk) 23:10, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Since we didn't post the election, and since there was no "major party" win, it seems unusual enough to stand on it's own as an ITN nom but it still feels like a loophole ITNR. --LaserLegs (talk) 19:54, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Due respect, but I don't see this as a technicality at all. The language is "Changes in the holder of the office...except when that change was already posted as part of a general election." Even if we had posted the election, we could not have posted the change in the holder of the office. This specific issue was adjudicated previously. Because coalition governments are usually headed by the election winner, we don't need to post twice (see Ireland in 2020). But if a different person emerges, it's very much noteworthy. GreatCaesarsGhost 01:10, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 04:33, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

December 14

Portal:Current events/2021 December 14

December 14, 2021 (2021-12-14) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Colombian conflict Two explosions at Camilo Daza International Airport in Cúcuta kill two law enforcement officials and one of the perpetrators. (Yahoo! News) Disasters and accidents Cap-Haïtien fuel tanker explosion At least 62 people are killed and more than 100 others injured when a fuel tanker explodes in Cap-Haïtien, Haiti. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia, COVID-19 vaccination in Indonesia Indonesia begins administering the COVID-19 vaccine for children between the ages of 6 and 11 years, with 100 children receiving the Sinovac Coronavac vaccine. (The Straits Times) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea reports a record 94 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 4,387. (Yonhap News Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Italy The Italian Council of Ministers approves the extension of the COVID-19 state of emergency until March 31 and also rules that travellers from other EU countries must present a negative swab test prior to departure due to the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant. (Thomson Reuters Foundation) COVID-19 pandemic in the Netherlands Caretaker Prime Minister Mark Rutte announces that primary schools will be closed on December 20 and that existing restrictions requiring bars, restaurants, and non-essential shops to close at 5 p.m. have been extended until January 14 due to concerns over the spread of the Omicron variant. (Barron's) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States The United States surpasses 800,000 deaths from COVID-19, remaining the highest death toll in the world. (NPR) COVID-19 drug development The final results of a trial of Paxlovid conducted by Pfizer shows 89% cut of risk of hospitalization and death in high-risk patients and is likely to work against the Omicron variant. (Financial Times) Law and crime 2021 Colombian protests A United Nations investigation into the 2021 Colombian protests found that the National Police of Colombia resorted to acts of police brutality that resulted in the massacre of 11 civilians. (CNN) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The House of Commons votes to approve "Plan B" measures that include the extension of the indoor mask mandate, vaccine passports, and mandating COVID-19 vaccines for NHS workers in England, despite large opposition from Boris Johnson's own Conservative Party. (Euronews) Indictment and arrest of Julian Assange Australian Deputy Prime Minister and National Party Leader Barnaby Joyce and a small group of Liberal Party backbenchers join the Labor Party in criticising the Liberal-National Coalition Morrison Government's inaction on the United Kingdom's imminent extradition of Australian publisher Julian Assange to the United States, arguing that Assange has not broken any Australian laws. (The Guardian) A court in Minsk, Belarus, sentences opposition activist Sergei Tikhanovsky to 18 years in prison for several charges, including organising riots, following what was widely described as a "sham trial". Tikhanovsky's wife, Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, left Belarus amid the protests that occurred in the country in 2020. (BBC News) Ugandan politician Bobi Wine is placed under house arrest in Magere, Wakiso District. (The EastAfrican) Science and technology Living With a Star Scientists announce that NASA's Parker Solar Probe became the first ever spacecraft to enter the stellar corona of the Sun during a flyby in April. (The Guardian)

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(Posted) RD: Jethro

Article: Jethro (comedian) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Metro
Credits:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)
• Created by Ghmyrtle (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Ghmyrtle (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Mjroots (talk) 09:52, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is in good shape. Thryduulf (talk) 13:18, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support I don’t see any major problems. Sahaib3005 (talk) 16:27, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Small article, but well-sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:35, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 17:42, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: Metro (RSP entry) is not a reliable source. Is the regional source in the article good enough? — Bilorv (talk) 22:25, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: I just threw in a few {cn} tags. More refs are needed, please. --PFHLai (talk) 22:31, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• All now sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:50, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 01:52, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Ken Kragen

Article: Ken Kragen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Producer that organized "We Are the World" and "Hands Across America". Article needs some sourcing help Masem (t) 01:38, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• More refs, please. There are a few {cn} tags in the "Later life" section. --PFHLai (talk) 18:18, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Riccardo Ehrman

Article: Riccardo Ehrman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ansa
Credits:

• Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by KittenKlub (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: That Italian journalist who asked the best question at the best time in 1989. The article is a Start, but KittenKlub has done a good job of citing sources and expanding the content. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 22:37, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Notable journalist who (accidentally) helped kickstart the Revolutions of 1989 that began with East Germany. Fakescientist8000 (talk) 01:03, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 02:39, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 18:34, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Cap-Haïtien fuel tanker explosion

Article: Cap-Haïtien fuel tanker explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A fuel tanker explosion in Cap-Haïtien kills at least 60 people. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, AP, Reuters, AlJazeera, AFP (via France 24),dpa
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: I know we don't like bus plunge-type stories but I think this is worth discussing. At least 50 dead. Haitian president Ariel Henry has declared three days of national mourning. Article is obviously not up to snuff yet - Dumelow (talk) 14:18, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Article is a 3-sentence stub. Needs a lot of expansion before it is appropriate for the main page. --Jayron32 14:38, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Widely covered. – Sca (talk) 14:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support A major disaster. The article will rapidly be expanded. Jim Michael (talk) 14:49, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Wait until article is more developed. Will definitely support then. Kellis7 (Kellis7) 15:09, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Wait I doubt there is any editor that would oppose on significance or support on quality. GreatCaesarsGhost 15:55, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

  Support While the article remains short, it tells a complete story with good referencing. We can wait for further development, but I see no obligation to do so. GreatCaesarsGhost 21:30, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Terrible tragedy. The article seems to be in decent shape. -TenorTwelve (talk) 20:58, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article has expanded. Heythereimaguy (talk) 23:53, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 03:11, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 03:34, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment ITN actually loves bus plunge stories: Chiapas truck crash; 2021 Bulgaria bus crash; Sokoto bus massacre; Freetown fuel tanker explosion... See also: If it bleeds, it leads. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:53, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

  Literally the opposite of that. Gotta love how everyone who brings up "bus plunge" never takes the time to understand what it actually means. GreatCaesarsGhost 21:22, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – AP on Wednesday puts toll at 75. Sca (talk) 17:24, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Abraham Lunggana

Article: Abraham Lunggana (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4] (in Indonesian)
Credits:

• Nominated by Juxlos (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: (Mostly) local politician in Jakarta Juxlos (talk) 05:23, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is sufficient. --Jayron32 14:40, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 18:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 19:15, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

December 13

Portal:Current events/2021 December 13

December 13, 2021 (2021-12-13) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks 2021 Democratic Republic of the Congo attacks; Allied Democratic Forces insurgency Congolese president Félix Tshisekedi assures his country that the presence of Ugandan troops in the DRC is only to prevent the ongoing insurgency by the Allied Democratic Forces. The president says that Uganda's intervention will be temporary. (Reuters) Kashmir conflict Three policemen are killed and 11 others injured as Jaish-e-Mohammed gunmen open fire against a bus carrying Indian security forces in Srinagar, Jammu and Kashmir. (BBC News) One-hundred and six members of a Ukrainian "neo-Nazi" youth group are arrested in Russia, suspected of planning attacks, including mass murders. Russia has accused Ukrainian intelligence of financially funding the group. Ukraine alleges that the arrests and subsequent Russian media reporting are staged as part of Russian intelligence measures. (Reuters) Arts and culture Miss Universe 2021 Harnaaz Sandhu of India is crowned Miss Universe in Eilat, Israel. (CNN) Disasters and accidents Tornado outbreak of December 10–11, 2021 The death toll from the tornado outbreak in Kentucky, United States, increases to 74, making it the second deadliest tornado outbreak to occur in the state. Fourteen people are also killed in other U.S. states, with some towns being completely destroyed. (BBC News) A vehicle carrying migrants crashes while trying to avoid a police check in Mórahalom, Hungary, killing seven people and injuring four more. The Serbian driver has been arrested. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Cyprus Cyprus announces the approval of the COVID-19 vaccine administered for children ages 5 to 11 years and also allowing adults to receive booster dose two weeks sooner than six months after their second dose in order to curb the rise of COVID-19 cases following the first case of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Hungary Hungary reports its first two cases of the Omicron variant, which was first detected in South Africa. (Anadolu Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Norway The Norwegian government announces that alcohol sales at bars and restaurants will be banned and stricter rules will be implemented at schools due to the spread of the Omicron variant. The government also announces that the COVID-19 vaccine booster dose interval has been reduced to 4.5 months and that the military will assist with the booster dose campaign. (The Local Norway) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris Johnson announces that at least one person in the UK has died after testing positive for the Omicron variant. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in mainland China China reports its first confirmed case of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in a person who travelled to Tianjin from overseas on December 9. (NDTV) COVID-19 pandemic in Pakistan Pakistan reports its first confirmed case of the Omicron variant in a 57-year-old unvaccinated woman from Karachi. (The Express Tribune) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia The Australian state of Queensland reopens its land borders with New South Wales and Victoria to vaccinated domestic travellers. (The Guardian) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in Pennsylvania COVID-19 pandemic in Philadelphia Philadelphia imposes a vaccine mandate for indoor activities such as dining, cinemas, and at the Wells Fargo Center for a 76ers or Flyers game. (The Philadelphia Inquirer) COVID-19 pandemic in New York (state) New York state reimposes a mandatory indoor mask mandate for businesses that haven't implemented a vaccination requirement amid threats of the COVID-19 surge and the Omicron variant in winter. (The New York Times) The United States surpasses 50 million cases of COVID-19. (The Hill) International relations Israel–United Arab Emirates relations Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan of the United Arab Emirates discuss strengthening bilateral trade and cooperation in multiple areas, at the first meeting of the leaders of the two countries. (CNN) (NBC News) South Africa–Zimbabwe relations South Africa cancels a plan to forcibly deport 200,000 Zimbabweans from the country amid an outcry and concerns over perceived xenophobia and human rights abuses. (Bloomberg) Law and crime Eight people are injured as a teenager detonates an improvised explosive device, in an attempt to blow himself up, at a Russian Orthodox school near a convent in Serpukhov, Russia. The perpetrator is identified as a student at the school, and is currently hospitalised in critical condition. (BBC News) Sports Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on sports 2021 NFL season The National Football League reports their first case of the Omicron variant in a Washington Football Team staffer. Additionally, 36 players tested positive for COVID-19 throughout the NFL. (WRC-TV) (NFL.com)

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(Posted) RD: Blackberri

Article: Blackberri (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bay Area Reporter
Credits:

• Created and nominated by TJMSmith (talk · give credit)
• Updated by EmDiz (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
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Nominator's comments: American singer-songwriter and community activist. TJMSmith (talk) 20:39, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• Long enough and with enough footnotes, this wikibio is READY for RD. I'm mildly concerned about the copyright status of the photo in the infobox, though. Really cc-by-4.0? --PFHLai (talk) 18:00, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

• I uploaded a bunch more pix today, if anyone wants to swap out the one in the infobox feel free. Funcrunch (talk) 20:46, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

• Posted Stephen 21:57, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Charles R. Morris

Article: Charles R. Morris (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Created by Heisler76 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit) and Joofjoof (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
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Nominator's comments: American banker and economist. Article requires significant uplift before it can be ready for homepage / RD. I will get to it later tonight. If someone wants to get to it before me, please feel free to do so. Ktin (talk) 15:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 11:04, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. TJMSmith (talk) 12:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Jimmy Rave

Article: Jimmy Rave (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily Mirror, PWInsider
Credits:

• Nominated by Sceptre (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Former professional wrestler. Sceptre (talk) 21:17, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose there are lines and paragraphs without any source. Once they are fixed, the article will be ready to be included in the Main Page. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 19:31, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Verónica Forqué

Article: Verónica Forqué (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Mundo, El País
Credits:

• Nominated by NoonIcarus (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Asqueladd (talk · give credit) and Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Spanish actress. NoonIcarus (talk) 20:47, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment A very sad death. I was also planning to nominate her. Her wikibio is not bad but I think that, being an actress of the level she is, she could have a more in-depth coverage of her career and life, and the lists mentioned are incomplete. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:04, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  @Alsoriano97, agree about fleshing out—I’ve been adding some reviews but the archival sources I have access to are mostly in English so especially if you have more in Spanish, that would be very welcome! Innisfree987 (talk) 22:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Her article now looks good enough. Nice work! _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 23:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 00:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Miss Universe 2021

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Article: Miss Universe 2021 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Harnaaz Sandhu of India is crowned Miss Universe 2021. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Miss Universe 2021, held in Eilat,Israel, Harnaaz Sandhu of India is crowned as the winner.
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

• Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
• Created by Jjj1238 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Azmy25 (talk · give credit), Nofoolz (talk · give credit) and ApprenticeFan (talk · give credit)

Article updated

 ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 16:44, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Tentative oppose, I'm not sure when was the last time we posted a beauty pageant winner. I will not go into the "Miss Universe? But all competitors were humans from Earth?" thing here :P The photo is likely a copyvio. --Tone 16:56, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
  • The pic has been tagged for speedy at WCommons. I'm removing it from ITN/C. --PFHLai (talk) 22:51, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Should go down a storm with WP:WikiProject Women in Red. Do we generally post Mr. Universe? How about Non-binary Universe Person? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:57, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• To take your question about the other Universe competitions at face value, I don't think we generally post any of them (or ITN/R would be involved...), but to ask that is to imply that all events run by the same company are equally newsworthy and otherwise notable. Kingsif (talk) 17:55, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Mr. Universe is actually run by NABBA. Not sure about the other one. Probably yet to be staged. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:20, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support - I am actually going to support this one this year. It is the 70th anniversary, article is fully sourced. Miss Universe is a major beauty pageant with at least a billion viewers all over the world. BabbaQ (talk) 16:59, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  Even the organizers (who have incentive to inflate unverifiable viewership numbers) predicted the cast would "reach" (clever word choice there) 600 million. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:53, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  Sorry, but it hasn't reached me yet. So please take at least one off your total. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:55, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  Mom, he said you earn 1 billion dollars a year. You only earn 700 million a year.. oh poor me.BabbaQ (talk) 18:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  Yeah. My fave is the swimsuit competition.... like the lovely Miss Montana in 1973's Miss America: "subject prepared for a total brainwash"... Martinevans123 (talk) 21:50, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Why aren't the spectators wearing bikinis? Should de rigueur. – Sca (talk) 15:08, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose posting subjective beauty pageants. 331dot (talk) 18:06, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Then I assume that the Academy Awards also are subjective. And should not be posted.BabbaQ (talk) 18:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• What makes the pageant organizers an authority on beauty, and what impact does the pageant have on society? Would you nominate my 331dot's Beauty Pageant? Movies and beauty are two completely different animals, as is The Academy and the organizers of this event. 331dot (talk) 20:08, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Schwing! InedibleHulk (talk) 00:18, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• oppose Not notable, nor is this more unique than Miss World or the other pagents. 99.247.176.90 (talk) 21:01, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose If ever a media event needs a pretty picture, it's this one, and I'd say the same for any new Mr. Universe if he ever came up. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:47, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Weak support I don't like beauty pageants, but I understand that the Miss Universe contest is a pretty big deal around the world. Article is fine on quality. NorthernFalcon (talk) 01:20, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose not important enough for ITN. Also bolded article has copyvio photo and is barely long enough, focuses mainly on 2 competitions only, so article quality is not there either. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Per 331, Joseph. Lacks general significance. – Sca (talk) 13:12, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Given the universal dislike of beauty pagaents nowadays due to its objectification of women, I don't think we should post these. --Masem (t) 13:28, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Objets de femmes? – Sca (talk) 14:55, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

"The sexual objectification of women involves them being viewed primarily as an object of male sexual desire, rather than as a whole person". Not just in France, in fact. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:41, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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(Closed) Conviction of Inger Støjberg

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Article: Inger Støjberg (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Denmark, former Minister for Integration Inger Støjberg is impeached and sentenced to sixty days in prison. (Post)
News source(s): Euronews
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Unknown Temptation (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Not sure if this passes muster for ITN, but it seems significant. According to the BBC [5], this was Denmark's first impeachment trial since 1995, with their only being six in history, so this is not a country where they take such decisions lightly. I understand the article on the trial itself is pretty short, and that nobody updated the bio until me, but the story itself seems notable. Allowing for alt blurbs if the legalese is incorrect. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:41, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Tentative support, impeachment of a cabinet minister and prison sentence is a big story, though the impeachment article should be instead integrated into the main one, it is not long enough to merit being a stand-alone. --Tone 16:58, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• I can't imagine we would post a US cabinet secretary getting a hand slap like this. GreatCaesarsGhost 17:29, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Sentenced to prison? I think we would. --Tone 18:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
    • Indeed; it would be a serious matter for a cabinet official in the US to see the inside of a cell. 331dot (talk) 20:18, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose many governments have members imprisoned, not seeing why this is ITN-worthy. And also, her article is woefully undersourced, and has a massive focus on controversies (in violation of WP:Controversy sections. The impeachment article is a stub. So no appropriate article has anything near an appropriate article quality. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Which other governments have cabinet officials/ministers in prison as a result of conduct related to their job? 331dot (talk) 20:20, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support on the merits, though news coverage seems limited. A cabinet official seeing the inside of a jail cell due to conduct related to their position is rare. 331dot (talk) 18:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support on the merits per 331dot, but I don't think coverage is "limited". I'm seeing it stateside in Bloomberg, plus there's European Politico, South China Morning Post, PerthNow, The Guardian, Spiege, and more. However, her article has an orange tag and the impeachment article is a stub. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Article has too many CN tags; the majority of the "Political Career" section is unreferenced, for example. Fix that before this can be posted. --Jayron32 19:18, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I would understand the supports if she were a former prime minister or former president, but not if she is a former minister. There are many countries, for example Spain, that have had ministers imprisoned for crimes committed during their tenure and I would not think of nominating them. We would be setting a reckless precedent. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:08, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Which Spanish ministers are in prison due to conduct related to their job? I would have supported that too. 331dot (talk) 21:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose per both Alsoriano97 and Joseph2302. Also the sentence is very light. GreatCaesarsGhost 21:17, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

It is light compared to the general population, but rare for high government officials. If Donald Trump sees the inside of a cell for only 24 hours, it would be big news.331dot (talk) 21:22, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

If you need to compare the president of the United States to a low-ranking minister in Denmark, you are not making the point that you think you are. GreatCaesarsGhost 22:02, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

GreatCaesarsGhost I'm not comparing the former President to anything, just noting it is rare for high government officials to see prison. If it makes you feel better, use Wilbur Ross. 331dot (talk) 22:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

That's still the wrong form of government. This is like Birthe Rønn Hornbech getting pinched for the Palestinian sagsbehandling. Or Rikke Hvilshøj's car catching fire. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't think you're comprehending how short a sentence this is. The punishment for simple assault is up to 6 months. I know someone who received several years for signing for his roommate's parcel delivery. I have no doubt Ross committed many crimes during his time in office. While I would be suprised if he faced prosecution for any of them, I would certainly see a two-month sentence as a miscarriage of justice. Aside, it is extremely bad form to criticise every !vote on a nom you disagree with. GreatCaesarsGhost 16:06, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose 'Former minister' faces a grand total of 60 days in prison. This is clearly not going through. Gotitbro (talk) 21:54, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  Gotitbro, jailed for actions that she conducted in office. As though her resignation is why this isn't ITN? – Muboshgu (talk) 21:55, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

The blurb should be altered in that case. Still, can't see a case for a ministerial impeachment being notable enough for ITN in Denmark or otherwise [doesn't appear to be an above the fold news internationally as well, even Euro News somewhat buries it]. Heads of state/government would have been different (which is ITNR, I believe). Gotitbro (talk) 22:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Though, I would like to add, the reason for her impeachment is interesting and important enough (related to the current immigration crisis) and I would perhaps support if presented in the blurb as such. But the article is no shape to be on the main page: half uncited, half is of controversies with an unneeded fork on impeachment to boot. Gotitbro (talk) 22:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose My opinion is that if "government ministers who were imprisoned due to actions in office" are a thing then this ITN would be brimming with social ministers. Basically with the exception of one cabinet, every social minister in the last cabinet is now serving time in prison. Last time our social minister was technically "almost sentenced to death". So, yeah, this isn't a thing. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 02:20, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Per Jeromi, Alsoriano. Lacks general significance; scant reader interest. – Sca (talk) 13:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm curious as to how you judged reader interest for the English speaking world, and where that is found in WP:ITN as a criteria. It does state "To point readers to subjects they might not have been looking for but nonetheless may interest them." 331dot (talk) 15:02, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

I quickscanned my (secure) personal memory/factoid database, which comprises more than 500 million items. – Sca (talk) 15:16, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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New Prime Minister of Bulgaria

Article: Kiril Petkov (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Kiril Petkov (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Bulgaria as part of a coalition government. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Kiril Petkov (pictured) is elected Prime Minister of Bulgaria as part of a coalition government, ending 8 months of political stalemate.
News source(s): RadioFreeEurope Bulgarian National Television
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Change of the head of goverment of an EU country, WP:ITNR. Ends an 8 month political stalemate after 3 national elections. BastianMAT (talk) 14:25, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose on quality surely there's more that can be said about him other than the last 3 months? Also, article is in violation of WP:Controversy sections- this should be covered in a general paragraph. Also, infobox implies he gave up Canadian citizenship, but this isn't in article anywhere? Also, the parties in the coalition aren't sourced in his article, we shouldn't be blurbing text not found in the bolded article. In principle, support as change of government is ITNR, but the article isn't quite good enough yet IMO. Also added an ALT2, as not sure listing all those party acronyms is helpful in ITN blurb. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:54, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per above; there's rather large gaps in his biography and I would expect more for a major world leader. Furthermore, WP:PROSELINE is a problem; the article would need to be re-written into a more natural narrative tone. --Jayron32 15:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment the proposed image has been nominated for deletion on Commons, though I believe the deletion rationale is incorrect. The copyright status of that photo should be checked by an admin before adding the image on front page here. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:41, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support I don't see the article in bad condition. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 18:19, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose per LaserLegs. I had completely forgotten about it. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:22, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose and not ITN/R. We posted the election, this is a formality. [6] --LaserLegs (talk) 19:22, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• This is ITNR. Since he is leading a coalition, there was no guarantee he was going to be the PM after the election results were announced. Changes in the principle executive are posted. LL has proposed changing this, which is within their rights to do, but as it is now, ITNR is correct here. 331dot (talk) 22:00, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

December 12

Portal:Current events/2021 December 12

December 12, 2021 (2021-12-12) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Somali Civil War Four Burundian soldiers are killed as their vehicle hit a roadside bomb in Burane, Somalia. Al-Shabaab has claimed responsibility for the attack. (All Africa) Three Hamas members are killed and six more injured during a dispute with Fatah gunmen in Tyre, Lebanon, at the funeral of a Hamas member killed two days ago during an accidental explosion at the Burj el-Shemali camp. (Al Jazeera) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Austria Austria ends its nationwide lockdown for people who are vaccinated or who have recovered from COVID-19 as the number of new cases decreases. There will now be an 11 p.m. curfew for restaurants and people must use an FFP2 mask on public transport and in indoor spaces. (Euronews) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia Russia surpasses 10 million cases of COVID-19. (CNA) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The United Kingdom raises its COVID-19 Alert level to Level 3 due to the rapid spread of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant, which has resulted in 3,137 cases. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in South Africa President Cyril Ramaphosa tests positive for COVID-19 with mild symptoms. (CNN) Law and crime 2021 Banco de Oro hack The Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas, the Philippines' central bank, issues a statement that it is currently monitoring an increase in complaints on social media regarding Banco de Oro clients losing money and having their accounts hacked. (Reuters) Politics and elections 2021 New Caledonian independence referendum Citizens in New Caledonia vote against independence and choose to remain part of France. Pro-independence parties boycotted the referendum in order to protest the alleged lack of time to campaign. (RNZ) Sports 2021 Formula One World Championship 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix At the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, Max Verstappen wins the Driver's Championship, while Mercedes wins the Constructors' Championship. (The Guardian)

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(Posted) Grey Cup

Article: 108th Grey Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the 108th Grey Cup, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers defeat the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in overtime, 33-25. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Canadian football, the Winnipeg Blue Bombers defeat the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in overtime to win the Grey Cup
News source(s): CTV, TSN, CBC,
Credits:

• Nominated by NorthernFalcon (talk · give credit)
• Created by Cmm3 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by ViperSnake151 (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: ITN/R sports event happened. Article is good quality and is nearly ready for ITN. NorthernFalcon (talk) 05:11, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support the event is ITNR, and the article looks good enough. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:35, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support on quality I think the blurb should contain some geographic location. Many readers outside of North America may read this and have no idea, at first glance, what it is or where this cup is developed. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:59, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Added altblurb which mentions the sport (which we should always do), and therefore mentions country too. I don't think the exact score is relevant for the blurb either. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Altblurb looks much better. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support The Grey Cup article has been featured for the past few years and this game's article is similar in quality. Cmm3 (talk) 14:05, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Tradition! – Sca (talk) 15:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Posted altblurb. --Jayron32 15:30, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Post-posting comment Is "in overtime" really necessary? I think, as far as a main page blurb goes, that's cruft that doesn't add to the story. It'd be like mentioning that the F1 race was won on the last lap. I don't want to unilaterally change it, but I'm not a fan of that inclusion. -- Kicking222 (talk) 16:44, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

  I agree - if mentioning the score is not necessary, then neither is mentioning overtime.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose The league is not prominent. Hcoder3104 (talk) 16:49, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

  @Hcoder3104: The item is listed at WP:ITNR, which means that significance has already been determined. If you object to this inclusion, start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:In the news to have it removed from the list. --Jayron32 16:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Roland Hemond

Article: Roland Hemond (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Athletic, MLB.com
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 23:54, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Sufficient coverage and sources.—Bagumba (talk) 06:58, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• I've added a few {cn} tags for unreferenced materials. Please add more refs. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 10:30, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

  PFHLai, all fixed up now. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:26, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

  Thanks for the new footnotes, Muboshgu! --PFHLai (talk) 00:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 19:13, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) MLS Cup 2021

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: MLS Cup 2021 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Major League Soccer, New York City FC defeat Portland Timbers to win their first MLS Cup. (Post)
News source(s): [7] [8]
Credits:

• Nominated by JanderVK (talk · give credit)

 JanderVK (talk)

• Oppose Don't we already have a multitude of soccer related entries on ITNR, clearly not as prominent as them. Gotitbro (talk) 23:19, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose not ITNR and not a prominent soccer league. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 23:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Gosh, I thought MLS stood for Multiple Listing Service. – Sca (talk) 00:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

That's because Americans decided to call it major, like how they call the winner of most of their sports a "world champion". Their choice of nonsense naming sytem doesn't make this an important league. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

To be fair even if the US had the best team in the world you would never let them play in your major leagues cause they're all in the British or B+1 time zone but if a handegg, Yank netball, Yankee cricket or ice hockey player is better than like one guy in one of our 4 major leagues they almost invariably become a player thus making the 4 leagues noticeably stronger than any other league of that sport in the world. So the winners are world champions even though London can never play (unless an eccentric billionaire manages to move one of the shit teams there, like the Pittsburgh Pirates) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 01:09, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

What does CONCACAF stand for? Cón caffeíne but with a stutter? If New York City Football Club beats the 2022 CONCACAF Champions League (which has Liga MX® clubs) then a soccer team from the NY area would enter the Club World Cup for the first time! (like the world cup but not for countries) They play in Yankee Stadium! Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 00:47, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

The final was attended by just 25,000 spectators, this isn't a major league like the Premier League, Spanish La Liga or German Bundesliga. Any other football league with those comparatively low attendences wouldn't even be considered here. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:54, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes we know soccer is not a big 4 sport here, you don't have to rub it in. Liga MX almost always wins the continent and is usually defeated by the CONMEBOL team if they meet who then usually lose to UEFA. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 01:16, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes we know soccer is not a big 4 sport here, you don't have to rub it in. Wasn't trying to, but your other point that Liga MX is much better highlights my point: we wouldn't post that league, and so we shouldn't post the less important US league. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Just FYI, the final's low attendance is due to the venue's constraints. The 2018 and 2019 finals both got upwards of 69,000 spectators (both sellouts of American football venues). SounderBruce 07:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose not one of the world's major football (soccer) leagues, so not important enough for ITN. Posting this would be a WP:BIAS, as we wouldn't consider posting a comparably unimportant football league outside the US. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Posting the results of a European competition would be enforcing systematic bias, while posting from a developing market within the sport would not, no? SounderBruce 07:16, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
    • Not a bias, as those are the biggest leagues in the world, which is why they are posted (not because they're European, but because they're the biggest). The US league is maybe "upcoming", but it's nowhere near as important as those leagues. And other similar standard leagues in non-US countries wouldn't even be considered here. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:03, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Leaving aside the world, I don't think this is a particularly important league in the US, at least not yet. 331dot (talk) 09:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Biggest league in the US and scaling up. We've blurbed less - some I thought only existed as intramural sports. CoatCheck (talk) 21:30, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Article seems to be in good shape and I do not see an issue in adding another league to the list of leagues / tournaments that we report. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 21:45, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose we general post premier events in sport. The number of football competitions we post is already a little out of hand, but there's some ambiguity as to which competitions are top. There is no question this is far down the table. GreatCaesarsGhost 23:09, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Which table? Looks like another national-level football competition just blurbed in hours flat, minimal discussion and nearly identical attendance. CoatCheck (talk) 16:36, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
    • The Grey Cup is a different sport (Canadian football), and is ITNR, as it's the most important league in that sport. Whereas the MLS is association football/soccer, and isn't the most important competition in that sport. Trying to equate the two seems disingenuous to me. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:00, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Past consensus on ITN is to treat MLS differently than the other major professional sports leagues in the United States and Canada. While MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, and CFL could be considered the top league in the world in their respective sport, the same could not be said of MLS. MLS is just one of scores of similar leagues around the world. And MLS has a harder time attracting players around the globe, partially due to the fact that their spring-to-fall schedule results in scheduling conflicts with the FIFA calendar and with summertime international tournaments such as the FIFA World Cup. Just look at List of professional sports leagues by revenue, sort the Sport column, and see how many other association football leagues MLS has to compete with for a worldwide audience. Whereas the other five major professional sports leagues in the U.S. and Canada are at the top of revenues in their respective sport. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:10, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted RD) RD/Blurb: Vicente Fernández

Article: Vicente Fernández (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Mexican singer-songwriter Vicente Fernández (pictured) dies at 81. (Post)
News source(s): NBC News CNN
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Unquestionable notability. I'm working on his article, but I'm already making the nomination in case it can serve as a call for other users to participate, there is a lot of work to do. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:47, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Support Blurb I added a potential blurb, as Fernandez was one of Mexico's (as well as the Latin-American world's) most notable and beloved musicians, sold over 50 million records, and even has a Hollywood Walk of Fame star. This is similar to how Diego Maradona was one of the world's most famous soccer players. The article is well sourced and is in great shape, though is still being cleaned up a bit to add a bit more unanimity for posting. DrewieStewie (talk) 13:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support, but oppose blurb. The referencing has much improved. There is one part left, however I don't think that it is really necessary to be included, so cutting that paragraph is fine as well IMO. Article is in good shape.KittenKlub (talk) 13:58, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support RD, at least, no opinion on blurb, big star. Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:10, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Nom. comment I'm still working on the article. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 14:08, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb Highly influential singer not only in Mexico but in Spanish-speaking countries and the US. He’s probably Elvis-level influential in Mexico. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 14:41, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support RD, no comment on blurb. Massively influential, but not sure if worthy of a blurb.The Kip (talk) 16:46, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support RD article is clearly good enough for RD. Neutral/no specific objections to blurb if there's consensus from others to do so (I don't feel qualified to judge the importance of him to Latin American music, which I have no knowledge on). Joseph2302 (talk) 17:00, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posting to RD. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:26, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  Muboshgu, Should this be blurbed? There’s only one oppose vote that isn’t further elaborated on, and there’s concrete reasons given for support, with no further objections from those who are neutral to a blurb. DrewieStewie (talk) 19:32, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  • I perceive "Support RD" to be opposing a blurb. More discussion can determine if there is a consensus for a blurb or not. I don't see enough support for it. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:04, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

    Muboshgu, Fair enough on the discussion portion, I agree. However, only one of them explicitly stated “oppose blurb”. The rest that didn’t explicitly support said an array of things such “no opinion, big star” “no comment, not sure, but indeed massively influential” and “neutral/no objections”. To me, rather than opposition, that sounds like a swing vote to me. If more supports come about, they become tantamount to supports. If more opposition comes about, they become tantamount to opposes. But I agree, more discussion is needed. DrewieStewie (talk) 20:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb Not one of those rare occasions where a blurb for a recent death is justified. Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:31, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Blurb Known even outside the world of Mexican music. Wizardoftheyear (talk) 20:35, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Neutral blurb The arguments in favor of blurbing him seem valid, but I don't know enough about Mexican or Latin-American music in general to judge Fernandez's overall fame relative to the rest of the field, let alone all of popular music as a whole. Therefore it seems impossible for me to have any sort of informed opinion one way or another as to whether he is blurbworthy. --WaltCip-(talk) 21:05, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb -- I checked the BBC, CNN, and Reuters; none have any news articles on their frontpages about it. It doesn't rise to the level worthy of a blurb -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 21:43, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Old Man Dies Photo RD is fine. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:54, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb The lack of votes here is telling. Most RD blurb noms get lots of attention- Colin Powell garnered dozens of !votes but was not blurbed. I would guess you're not seeing as many voices here because most editors have never heard of him. You could say that's a good reason to stay out, but I think it's a good reason to vote no. GreatCaesarsGhost 21:59, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 Formula One season, Max Verstappen

Article: 2021 Formula One World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Formula One, Max Verstappen (pictured) wins the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, the final race of the 2021 Formula One World Championship and becomes the first ever Dutch World Champion. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Formula One, Max Verstappen (pictured) wins the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, the final race of the 2021 Formula One season and becomes the first ever Dutch World Champion.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In motorsport, Max Verstappen (pictured) wins the Formula One World Championship, while Mercedes wins the constructor's title.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In motorsport, Max Verstappen (pictured) provisionally wins the Formula One World Championship, while Mercedes wins the constructor's title.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ In motorsport, Max Verstappen (pictured) controversially wins the Formula One World Championship, while Mercedes wins the constructor's title.
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC Sport
Credits:

• Nominated by Mjroots (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Mjroots (talk) 14:40, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support - all bolded articles are good quality. Just need a source added to the Verstappen article in the Racing record section. Anarchyte (talk) 14:44, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Wait - Verstappen has been summoned to race control. Wait for that to resolve before moving forward. Anarchyte (talk) 15:46, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support once the article is updated and added ALT2. Unnamelessness (talk) 14:48, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment. While formally correct, many people will associate "stock car" with a different type of car than a F1-car. Count Iblis (talk) 15:03, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I've reverted the IP's vandalism. We are here to report on what has happened, whether or not we agree with what has happened and our favoured driver has won or lost. IP has been given a 24-hr PBLOCK. Mjroots (talk) 15:09, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Wait until section tag on Max Verstappen complaining of unsourced content on a BLP is resolved. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:10, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
  • It's not completely unsourced, so I've change the tag. Agree it needs addressing though. Mjroots (talk) 15:17, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose bolding of Max Verstappen, but support running the story with just the 2021 Formula One season article bolded. Unless there is some exceptional story relating to the individual, we typically do not bold them. See for example the Magnus Carlsen story currently on the main page, in which he is not bolded.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:17, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  Clarification: There is currently an orange tag on the relevant section of the 2021 Formula One World Championship, and no prose yet on the race today, so obviously that needs fixing too before going live.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:22, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  First ever Dutch World Champion is exceptional, is it not? Mjroots (talk) 15:26, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  I don't really think so. When Portugal won their first Euro title in 2016, we didn't bold them. When Magnus Carlsen became the first Norwegian to win the chess title in 2013, we didn't bold him. I see no precedent that would support a bolding.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  @Amakuru: as champion, Verstappen is the ITNR article. Mjroots (talk) 18:38, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  @Mjroots: Sorry, but no. WP:ITN/R says it's the "Formula One championship" that is ITN/R, not the champion. There is no other sport where we'd do this, with the only exception I can think of being Emma Raducanu in the US Open, but that was because her achievement was genuinely groundbreaking and unique. Being the first Dutchman to win doesn't count as groundbreaking.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:15, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  A better way to put it: the championship article needs to be bolded, but if the actual winner article is in good shape or close to good shape, it would be smart to bold it as well; that's bonus points, but not required. The championship article does absolutely need to be at quality and ready as the bolded article, though --Masem (t) 19:27, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Wait. Ordinarily, I would support it going straight on the main page, but with the controversial circumstances surrounding the safety car restart, I'd prefer to wait until the result of the season is made official and it's clear Mercedes aren't going to descend on Lausanne with a battering ram and a team of expensive lawyers. Sceptre (talk) 15:20, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  Is there any evidence such a thing is likely? Reliable sources are reporting that Verstappen won the title, so I don't think it's our place to be questioning that...  — Amakuru (talk) 15:22, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  I was watching the race live; Toto Wolff was incredibly angry at the FIA before the chequered flag fell. Both Mercedes and Red Bull have been very litigious before the stewards all season, and Ted Kravitz was even saying on the World Feed that the restart was irregular. I'd wait until tomorrow to see what Mercedes does, because I can't not see this championship being decided in court. Sceptre (talk) 15:38, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  OR alert, but from the way that Michael Masi responded to Toto Wolff's concerns during the race, it's probably unlikely that any appeals by Mercedes would bear any fruit. Then again, as you say, it's not our place to speculate and the fact that the race ended controversially should not affect the fact that the F1 currently officially recognise Verstappen as the WDC. Anarchyte (talk) 15:38, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  Mercedes have protested the result. Mjroots (talk) 15:43, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  The Mercedes protest includes a protest to the circumstances of the restart, which is the massive issue (with my racing fan hat on, I'm pretty sure the protest at Max overtaking under SC is a shot across the bow – Wolff saying "if you give Max a penalty, we won't take the restart to CAS"). The BBC Sport live feed has a lot of rumination over whether the safety car restart was regular or not, the answer of which will end up deciding the championship. Sceptre (talk) 15:55, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  No objection to the blurb but being described as champion on the Formula 1 website has no "official" standing. Officially the championship is only awarded at the FIA Prize Giving Ceremony[9]. 3142 (talk) 08:24, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  Support ALT3 now the stewards have made their decision at the circuit; given Mercedes have announced their attention to appeal to the ICA, Max is only provisionally the WDC until probably Thursday at the earliest. If the result gets overturned (either by ICA or CAS), then I think it would warrant another ITN entry. Sceptre (talk) 21:18, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support article quality is fine. RS report the result, not Wikipedians' place to question it; if Mercedes want to file lawsuits they can, not relevant to the posting. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:31, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Just to be clear, the article quality is not fine. There is an orange tag in the "Closing rounds" section, and the same section does not yet include a write-up of the Grand Prix that took place today.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:33, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Wait. Appeal by Mercedes appears to be likely given that there are claims by prominent members of F1 community that FIA failed to adjudicate the race fairly. So, let's wait until RSs say that there won't be an appeal, and if there is one, let's amend the blurb to include the contested nature of the the victory. Melmann 15:58, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Appeal appears to have been lodged. Melmann 16:02, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Wait We should know the result of this appeal fairly soon. Gopchunk (talk) 16:32, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Support And know we know the result. Yes, there may yet be a further appeal but that's a longer process and at some point we have to report on things as they are now. Gopchunk (talk) 20:13, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support The appeal could take weeks, if not months. According to the BBC, "Mercedes took a barrister with them". Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:47, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Do we have a source for "weeks, if not months"? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• As I understand it now in real time, there's actual discussions between the race organizers, MErcades, and Red Bull right now as I type this, so we should reasonably expect a final-ish decision today. There could still be a more formal appeal that will take time, but this current actions should be resolved before posting. --Masem (t) 17:54, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not as if it's like the US election! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:20, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok. That's "no" then. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:25, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: Mercedes have brought in a barrister to the stewards' room, which indicates they are lawyering up. Scuttlebutt in the paddock is also that they're preparing to go all the way to CAS. Sceptre (talk) 17:49, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Wait - Sources need to be added to some parts of the article. I think we should at least wait until whatever is going on with the stewards is resolved before posting as well. I don't currently feel confident that we wont suddenly have to change what the main page says. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 18:00, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support -- Mercedes' protest has been denied. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 19:48, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support - As other have already said, the appeal was rejected. According to the article, Mercedes can take this further in the coming days, but it can take long for a decision to come. For now, we should show the winner, also per article: "Mercedes took legal counsel into the appeal, but the stewards dismissed their claim - allowing Verstappen to celebrate his first world title." ZaniGiovanni (talk) 20:01, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support primary blurb as nom. At least as notable as the chess thing already mentioned. –DMartin 21:46, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support but Alt blurb 4. Was controversial, whatever the outcome (which now seems to hold). Martinevans123 (talk) 22:12, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 23:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Question Max Verstappen has an orange tagged section which needs more sources. Surely it shouldn't be allowed as a bold article in that state? Joseph2302 (talk) 00:57, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) 2021 New Caledonian independence referendum

Article: 2021 New Caledonian independence referendum (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the final independence referendum, New Caledonia overwhelmingly rejects independence from France amid a boycott from independence parties. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, France24, The Guardian, Aljazeera, AP, DW
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Aréat (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: RS have declared that New Caledonia rejected independence, article is sourced although we're still waiting for the final vote count. Macron has celebrated the results as this was the final independence vote. Independence parties boycotted the vote as they did not agree with the date of the election. BastianMAT (talk) 14:31, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Haven't two referendums already taken place, were they posted/discussed on ITN? Gotitbro (talk) 18:25, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Both were. BilledMammal (talk) 20:46, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Don't see any reason for this to not go through as well then, Support. Gotitbro (talk) 23:16, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose it'd only be important enough to post if the vote was in favour of independence. Jim Michael (talk) 19:06, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support A US state, or a British country, or a EU country voting against independence would be sufficiently important to post, and so it is for New Caledonia. The result has also been widely covered in the news, particularly in French and Pacific news sources. BilledMammal (talk) 20:46, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I can't see the significance of this result if the independence parties boycotted. Pawnkingthree (talk) 21:56, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Significance is that it is the final referendum permitted under the accords; according to France and the loyalists, there will be no more, and according to those who support independence they will engage with the planned post-referendum process where the status of New Caledonia within France is decided. BilledMammal (talk) 22:00, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Exactly, this was the final one of the three, meaning New Caledonia is going to remain part of France for at least some time.BastianMAT (talk) 00:08, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support An independence referendum, recognized by the country holding it, in a G7 country? How often does that happen apart from there? Plus, it's the final one.--Aréat (talk) 22:42, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Isn't this WP:ITN/R? If so, notability is not an issue. —Brigade Piron (talk) 22:43, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
  • No clue if referendums/(independence referendums) are part of ITN/R. Although I do personally think that this is significant enough. If it is part of ITN/R, we can update that.BastianMAT (talk) 00:08, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
    • It's not. Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:24, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
      • If the presidential election of a micronation is ITN/R, then surely any election which could result in the creation of a such a nation should be ITN/R IMO. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 17:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
        • @Brigade Piron: @BastianMAT: @Pawnkingthree: @King of Hearts: I opened a discussion on the inclusion of recognized independence referendum on here, if you wan't to participate.--Aréat (talk) 20:54, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose not notable since it was overwhelmingly rejected, and local news relevant only to a subdivision of a country. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 00:04, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• According to the ABC, it is relevant to Australia (the previous title of that article stated "Here is why Australians should care"). I have yet to find sources stating so explicitly for other countries, but it would be reasonable to assume that it is relevant to all of France, as well as to the rest of the regional nations. BilledMammal (talk) 00:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support, we posted the previous two, and the results are relevant since they mean that New Caledonia will remain part of France, with geopolitical implications. Also, independence referenda are rare and we should not post only results that are pro-independence. A possible analogy, we would still have posted the result of the Brexit vote if people had decided to stay with the EU. --Tone 09:02, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support same importance as the previous two, arguably more as it's controversial, and might be the last referendum they have on it. Article is of sufficient quality, and is NPOV despite it being a very politically charged vote. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:29, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is good quality, story is a major news story. --Jayron32 15:36, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose There are several tags in the article. Hanamanteo (talk) 17:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
  • @Hanamanteo: No more tags, fixed it in a few minutes as the few sentences were easily verifable. BastianMAT (talk) 18:22, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
    • Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 18:45, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. Spencer^T•C 19:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

December 11

Portal:Current events/2021 December 11

December 11, 2021 (2021-12-11) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz says he has instructed the Israel Defense Forces to prepare military options for potential use against Iran, that the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action yielded "no progress", and that world powers "understand that the Iranians are playing games". (Haaretz) The Gulf Cooperation Council calls for Iran to take action to salvage the nuclear deal and proposes to take part in the talks as a regional power. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Tornado outbreak of December 10–11, 2021 The death toll from the tornado outbreak in Kentucky, United States, increases to 70 and will likely continue to increase as more bodies are counted, according to a statement from Governor Andy Beshear. (AP) 2021 Ravanusa explosion Seven people are dead and two more missing after a residential building explodes and collapses due to a gas leak in Ravanusa, Agrigento, Sicily, Italy. (BBC News) Storm Barra Two deaths are reported in Navarre due to flooding in northern Spain. (ABC.es) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh Bangladesh reports its first cases of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in two female cricketers of the Bangladesh Cricket Team who travelled from Zimbabwe. (Asian News International) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea reports a record 80 deaths from COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide death toll to 4,210. (The Korea Herald) COVID-19 pandemic in Taiwan Taiwan reports its first cases of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in three people who travelled from the United Kingdom, Eswatini, and the United States. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Malta Malta reimposes one of the EU's strictest mask mandates that requires people to wear masks outdoors, with fines of €50 to €100 for failure to comply. (Times of Malta) COVID-19 pandemic in Turkey Turkey reports its first six cases of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in five people from the province of Izmir and one person from Istanbul. (TRT World) COVID-19 pandemic in Argentina, COVID-19 pandemic in Uruguay At midnight, terrestrial transport between Argentina and Uruguay reopens as buses resume service to border crossings between the two countries. Both countries require a proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test in order to board the buses and enter both countries. (Misiones Cuatro) COVID-19 pandemic in Mauritius Mauritius reports its first cases of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in two people who travelled from South Africa. (Daily Times) Law and crime A court in Benin sentences opposition leader Reckya Madougou to 20 years in prison after finding her guilty of "financing terrorism". The case has been highly controversial, with a judge in the case fleeing to France and denouncing the case as "entirely politically motivated". (The Washington Post) Sports MLS Cup 2021 New York City FC defeats the Portland Timbers 4–2 in a penalty shoot-out, winning their first title. (ESPN)

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(Closed) UFC 269

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Article: UFC 269 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In mixed martial arts, heavy underdog Julianna Peña submits longtime bantamweight champion Amanda Nunes at UFC 269 in Las Vegas. (Post)
News source(s): ESPN, The Independent, AP
Credits:

• Nominated by InedibleHulk (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gsfelipe94 (talk · give credit) and Sdpdude9 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Shocker. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:44, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose don't see this as important enough for ITN. Also, article lacks any prose about the event itself- it has only a results table. And a less important issue- the article also fails to convert imperial measures to their metric equivalents (which is a MOS violation). Joseph2302 (talk) 00:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  I've forwarded these concerns to the talk page, and am 50% confident they'll be dealt with swiftly! InedibleHulk (talk) 06:51, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  Unfortunately there's not been any improvements yet (apart from me adding conversions for the weights of people, which was the least important of my complaints). Joseph2302 (talk) 15:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  Better than nothing getting done, thank you. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose as with boxing, the lack of a structure to any type of championship makes it hard to see any fight as being ITN-worthy. --Masem (t) 00:39, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  That just makes them hard to place at ITN/R, I thought. The unexpected result here sets it apart from the ones which aren't nommed. But I guess appreciating the difference is hard if you haven't been watching the last seven years of ordinary Nunes fights (which is fine). InedibleHulk (talk) 01:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - There needs to be some clarity, perhaps on the ITN talk page, about what sort of MMA fights - if any - are considered notable enough for ITN. Otherwise we fall into the same problem we encounter with boxing, with all of the major fights essentially being considered promotional exercises.--WaltCip-(talk) 15:28, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  I don't think we need MMA-specific criteria, we just must decide whether it's newsworthy. As with all sports, the stakes matter, and this women's championship is the most prestigious in MMA. As in political turnover, length of reign matters, and Nunes had ruled since July 2016. She's a transformative figure and still technically top of her field, pound-for-pound, for Thatcher-Mandela points. The new champ was a dark horse, so it has shock and awe the main event (and the rest of the card) hasn't, along with relatively major gambling impacts. The sudden emphatic nature of the comeback and finish beats a five-round decision for oomph, same as violence helps death stories seem bigger. These are the boxes to check. But yes, unfortunately, so is good prose. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:20, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Submitted For Disapproval Even UFC 232, where the great lioness devoured the fearsome cyborg to claim her weight in golden feathers and attain sapphic sports immortality, doesn't tell a story. Just another dry stat table. What chance does a damned vixen have to "break the wheel" before too long? Fifty-fifty! And that's not good enough. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:25, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Anne Rice

Article: Anne Rice (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Strattonsmith (talk · give credit), TompaDompa (talk · give credit) and TenTonParasol (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Author, most notable for Interview with a Vampire, Outside of the bibliography, article is in good shape. Masem (t) 13:59, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support: Article has GA status. Death section might need a little expanding, otherwise it's good to go. Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 14:49, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment I have added sources to the bibliography section and all the entries are now sourced. TompaDompa (talk) 15:06, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support: The most important author in modern Gothic literature deserves a mention. JanderVK (talk) 17:45, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• There are currently 20+ {cn} tags in this wikibio. These issues must be addressed before this nom can proceed. Please add more footnotes and refs. --PFHLai (talk) 18:35, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose on quality per PFHLai. Her notability here is not important. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 18:42, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: I've added citations for several of the new cn tags, so there's currently 16 left. 9 of them are for comics adaptations of her work, so I've reached out to WP:COMICS for advice and help with those. On the other 7, at least one I wonder if we can just outright remove the tagged information itself, because the article already can verify the year of the death of her young daughter in 1972 but the unsourced information is the precise date and location. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 21:38, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

That should be all of the cn tags. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 06:57, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Posted. Thanks for all the new refs! --PFHLai (talk) 07:24, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Mel Lastman

Article: Mel Lastman (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CP24
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Thejacxb (talk · give credit)

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former mayor of Toronto Thejacxb (talk) 01:21, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose for now – article looks almost good to me, only thing is the concerns brought up in the "Post-amalgamation Toronto" section and details about his death. Ornithoptera (talk) 07:24, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - way too much uncited / citation needed. I'm sure this could be fixed up quickly enough, but I can't get to it myself at the moment. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 15:39, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Manuel Santana

Article: Manuel Santana (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters, ESPN, ATP Tour
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by BastianMAT (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: An important former tennis player, as Reuters say he contributed to making tennis popular in Spain. He was the number 1 and won several big titles such as wimbledon, roland Garros, us open, davis cup and olympics. BastianMAT (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose for now some paragraphs and lines without source, two sections without prose and an extension of the coverage of his career would be great. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 23:10, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
  • @Alsoriano97: Worked on it, article should be adequate now, being sourced and containing key information even if there is room for more. BastianMAT (talk) 00:13, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Seems ready. Nice work! _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 00:25, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment: Tables are unreferenced. Rm ready. Spencer^T•C 16:34, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
  • @Spencer: Have added sources to back up the tables (ITF match activity and ATP finals), cheers.BastianMAT (talk) 17:42, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 23:12, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Tornado outbreak of December 10–11, 2021

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Article: Tornado outbreak of December 10–11, 2021 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 70 are dead after a tornado strikes the US state of Kentucky. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A major tornado outbreak occurs in the United States, killing at least 70 people in Kentucky.
News source(s): Preliminary reports. Initial: Twitter and The Daily Mail. Reliable media: The Guardian, dpa, BBC, AP,
Lexington, Ky., Herald-Leader
Credits:

• Nominated by 142.117.88.43 (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: No article yet. 142.117.88.43 (talk) 09:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Tornado outbreak of December 10–11, 2021 142.117.88.43 (talk) 09:18, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Wait – 50 people likely dead, not actually 50 people dead (LEX18) however this is the first quad-state tornado in US history and has caused serious devastation. I suggest waiting till morning for better assessment of its impacts.--Dora the Axe-plorer (Nopen't) 09:46, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose until a significant number of victims is confirmed, if any. This is also not the proper way to make a nomination here. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 10:58, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support altblurb The number of victims is shocking and notorious and the article is near good shape. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 21:12, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - BBC now reporting the same speculation with "more like 70 to 80" being cited by a local lawman. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 11:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment At least half a dozen other people are confirmed to have died outside of (the) Mayfield (tornado), death tolls which are also expected to rise. We haven’t had a major outbreak like this in several years. 142.117.88.43 (talk) 11:44, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• source? The blurbs you propose are wrong. As stated above, 50 people have not yet been confirmed dead and I don't know how much six fatalities is blurb-worthy in a region/country usually affected by tornadoes. _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:55, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support. About 100 people have likely been killed. This is one of the largest tornado outbreaks ever, and that also in the meteorological winter which makes it even more unusual. Count Iblis (talk) 12:54, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Wait for confirmation of deaths. The Guardian ref repeatedly says feared dead. Though the death toll is likely to be in the high double figures, we shouldn't post until we know the death toll is high. Jim Michael (talk) 13:02, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Wait – Per Jim Michael. RS estimates of (expected) fatalities range from 50 to 100, and the AP doesn't seem to have filed a separate story yet. The Lexington, Ky., paper paraphrases governor saying "at least 50 people and possibly as many as 70 to 100" died. – Sca (talk) 13:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Conditional Support Major weather related disaster with substantial loss of life. Multiple RS sources are reporting scores of fatalities. That's enough. An exact death count is not needed, and we can always update the blurb as more information becomes available. Article quality is adequate, and it's being updated. Needs some additional sourcing in the meteorological section. But should be good to go then. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:34, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Regardless of the above, the "Meteorological analysis" section is unsourced. --Masem (t) 14:40, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

That's actually a good point. I missed that. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:53, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – The wide range of RS fatality estimates is precisely why we should wait in this instance. It seems that people – even Ky. Gov. Andy Beshear – are just making guesstimates. Too indefinite for ITN at this pt., IMO, but definitely blurbworthy eventually. – Sca (talk) 15:03, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

PS: – The existing article seems too general and diffuse. A rewrite leading with the Kentucky fatalities (the main news) would be best. – Sca (talk) 15:08, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – AP just filed a 3-graf 'top' to its general story, but it doesn't add much. – Sca (talk) 15:53, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

  A 'writethru' (complete) story filed around 16:00, but toll still unknown. – Sca (talk) 16:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support BBC just confirmed minimum of 70 dead. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 16:28, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• A lot of deaths for a tornado if confirmed, especially for winter (tornado season is spring (probably cause there's more sun energy in the system than autumn), autumn is secondary season, most winter tornados are further southeast as tornadoes need a cold front to touch warm and humid air but the US has been having insain warm snaps like a litany). The Tri-State Tornado (which meteos also doubt was a single tornado) was 97 years ago, last night's confirmed length of 150 miles and 2.83 hours without leaving the ground (vs 219 and 3.5 hours for the "record") is extreme (longstanding convention in meteorology is a tornado touches the surface by definition and "dies forever" if the vortex breaks contact even for a moment). The quad-state "line"/tri-state single tornado is roughly 100/75 miles long respectively and the 150 mile long one goes from barely inside the last state to far outside frame almost leaving the southern states entirely and almost becoming Quint-States I guess, that seems to beat 219 miles and 3.5 hours for "longest almost-single tornado" (blue must mean "rather strong" then) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 16:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
  • The article still needs sourcing before we can post. I agree this is an unusual death toll for a torando outbreak at any time of the year (much less N.Hemisphere winter) but we can't post a substandard article. --Masem (t) 17:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
    • Of course. It looks bad with all those citations needed. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 17:52, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:30, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Widespread devastation, as mentioned by others, it's unusual for a tornado outbreak to be this bad, especially in the winter. Heythereimaguy (talk) 18:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support ... in principle, pending article cleanup. Latest AP update paraphrases Gov. Beshear re a probable toll of "at least 70." – Sca (talk) 18:59, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support per nom, however note that 20 have been confirmed dead so far (70 estimated). Destroyeraa (Alternate account) 19:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

  Good point. But they may have known approx. how people were in the candle factory in Mayfield. Our Mayfield article says the factory's roof collapse "killed dozens of workers who were inside." (Somewhere else in the shuffle I saw a statement that 110 were inside.) – Sca (talk) 19:32, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment I removed altblurb 2. The National Weather Service has not confirmed that it was one tornado that traveled over 250 miles across four states. NWS reports may take a few days to verify or refute this claim. Destroyeraa (Alternate account) 19:42, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Reuters now says 70 dead. --Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 20:04, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Unusually high death toll for a single tornado. I agree to hold off on any mention of path length, since this may have been a tornado family and the number of tornadoes is unknown. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:49, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Strongly Support – This is one of the deadliest tornado outbreaks in modern times, and the "Quad-State Tornado" was also record-breaking (either as a tornado or a tornado family). The tornado outbreak did an extensive amount of damage as well. Media coverage is widespread. The article appears to be in good shape now. This definitely needs to be posted. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 20:52, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Suport History-making tornado outbreak with large human losses. --Dora the Axe-plorer (explore the morgue) 21:55, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Suport Very unusual December tornado cutting through 200+ miles. Death toll likely to pass Kentucky's 1890 record. CoatCheck (talk) 23:02, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment -- can the blurb be posted by an admin at this point? Certainly seems more than good enough. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 23:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

  Ditto. It's not journalism, but it looks presentable. Marked Ready. I wouldn't try to use the QuadStateTorMRMS graphic in our small ITN box, though - too complex. – Sca (talk) 23:44, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

  At least the cn and fv tags should be fixed first.... _-_Alsoriano97 (talk) 00:13, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support alt-blurb Blurbs about natural disasters never include a subdivision's name without including the country in which the event took place. Alternatively, instead of using the alt-blurb, the main blurb could be edited to include "Kentucky, United States". 58.167.153.179 (talk) 00:11, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• "Kentucky, United States" sounds odd. I changed the blurb so it reads "the US state of Kentucky", which I think reads better. Feel free to undo that if you disagree, though. -- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 01:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Posted. Spencer^T•C 03:28, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Post posting comment The tornado outbreak affected four states, not just Kentucky with at least 70 deaths, I suggest a change to: A major quad-state tornado outbreak in the Midwestern United States has killed at least 70 people.
  --Dora the Axe-plorer (explore the morgue) 11:55, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  But toll estimates Sunday for the larger area range from at least 83 to more than 100, and thus remain indefinite. To avoid confusion, it's better for the blurb to concentrate on the main disaster in Kentucky and let the article continue to tell the larger story – which it does high up in the text. – Sca (talk) 13:21, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  While the exact number is uncertain, what is certain is that the total death toll will be a lot more than 100 "Forty people have been rescued from the collapsed candle factory in Mayfield but 60 more remain missing and Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear, who has visited the scene, said it was unlikely there were more survivors. He said no-one had been found alive since Saturday. "There's at least 15ft of metal with cars on top of it, barrels of corrosive chemicals that are there. It'll be a miracle if anybody else is found alive in it," he said." Count Iblis (talk) 16:02, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Post posting comment Must have been a heck of a chess tournament. CoatCheck (talk) 18:39, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Post posting comment—Update 94 deaths have been confirmed, so please update the blurb to say “At least 90”. Elijahandskip (talk) 19:43, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

  Current blurb – A tornado outbreak kills at least 94 people in Kentucky and several neighboring U.S. states – is fine. Only concern is how often the toll might have to be revised. We'll see, maybe 94 is it. – Sca (talk) 23:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment -- did this really happen before Carlsen defended his championship? Shouldn't this be above that?-- Rockstone^{Send me a message!} 00:06, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  It was - Tornado blurb was accurately positioned above chess - until it wasn't. I'm waiting to see if it jumps above the race car blurb too. CoatCheck (talk) 01:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – Surprisingly, given previous reports, estimated toll numbers have been revised downward to 50 in Ky. and 64 overall. [10] [11] [12] (Also posted at WP:MP/E.) – Sca (talk) 13:45, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

  On Tues., general RS agreement on 74/±100. [13] [14] [15] – Sca (talk) 13:24, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

December 10

Portal:Current events/2021 December 10

December 10, 2021 (2021-12-10) (Friday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli–Palestinian conflict A man is killed and others are wounded as Israeli soldiers open fire on a group of Palestinian people protesting against Israeli settlements in the occupied West Bank. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents Tornado outbreak of December 10–11, 2021 A tornado outbreak hits Arkansas, Missouri, Tennessee and Kentucky, United States. Around 50 people are feared dead. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Laos Laos reports a record 1,645 new cases of COVID-19 in the past 24 hours, thereby bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 86,148. (The Laotian Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Singapore, COVID-19 vaccination in Singapore The Health Sciences Authority approves the usage of the Pfizer–BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for children between the ages of 5 and 11 years, with vaccine rollout for this age group to begin before the end of the year. (CNA) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea South Korea surpasses 500,000 cases of COVID-19. (Yonhap News Agency) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Cyprus Cyprus reports its first case of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in three Greek Cypriots who travelled from South Africa in Limassol. (Cyprus Mail) COVID-19 pandemic in Germany, COVID-19 vaccination in Germany The Bundestag and Bundesrat approve a revised Infectious Disease Protection Act that would require healthcare workers and other health professionals to be vaccinated or to have recovered from COVID-19. The new legislation also requires the closure of bars, restaurants and theatres in high-risk areas, as well as the suspension of cultural and sporting events in those areas. (Deutsche Welle) COVID-19 pandemic in the Czech Republic The Czech government announces the compulsory COVID-19 vaccination for people aged above 60 years, as well as healthcare workers, police officers, firefighters and the military, beginning from March 1, as the country experiences the world's highest infection rate. (The Times of India) International relations Foreign relations of Nicaragua, Foreign relations of Taiwan, Foreign relations of China Nicaragua severs diplomatic relations with Taiwan and establishes diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China. (The Hill) Law and crime The London High Court accepts an appeal from the U.S. government to extradite WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to the United States. The judge cited that certain conditions have been met for his decision. However, the extradition will not take place immediately as Assange has a right to appeal the decision. Assange's fiancée says that they will appeal the decision "at the earliest possible moment". (CNBC)

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(Posted) RD: Leland Wilkinson

Article: Leland Wilkinson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [16]
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Engineerchange (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Noted statistician and computer scientist Engineerchange (talk) 07:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• There are just a few {cn} tags to address. Almost ready. Please add more refs. --PFHLai (talk) 10:42, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

@PFHLai: Added a few more cites. Not sure there's a source for his latest wife. --Engineerchange (talk) 14:42, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the new footnotes, Engineerchange. I wonder if this is RS. --PFHLai (talk) 00:44, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

@PFHLai: I missed that one. From Googling about DNAinfo, it appears to be a RS. Added, thanks! --Engineerchange (talk) 03:54, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome! --PFHLai (talk) 12:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support Looks good to go. Hanamanteo (talk) 08:47, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted --PFHLai (talk) 12:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Günther Rühle

Article: Günther Rühle (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Spiegel and others
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Influential in German theatre as critic (FAZ), manager and historian - had no article in English. Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:08, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support – A longtime German cultural figure. Copy-edited. Looks adequate. – Sca (talk) 14:10, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Adequate sourced, start class article. Grimes2 (talk) 14:27, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support – Well written and referenced. (and an edit conflict) KittenKlub (talk) 14:28, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. A brand new article going on MainPage less than six hours after creation?! Nicely done. --PFHLai (talk) 16:08, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

RD: Michael Nesmith

Article: Michael Nesmith (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [17]
Credits:

• Nominated by ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Jkaharper (talk · give credit) and Moncrief (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American Musician ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 18:06, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose with regret; too much unsourced information. Not just a musician, a seminal one from what was never intended to be one of the greatest 60s groups ever, but amazingly turned out to be just that. Stick on "Circle Sky" from the Head soundtrack. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:34, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose as Ritchie333... Of the Monkees, Nesmith was probably the most musically relevant; a stellar guitarist, singer and songwriter, he had the most impactful career after the Monkees relevance ended... His work as a songwriter ("Different Drum") is stellar, and The First National Band was one of the seminal acts in alt-country ("Joanne"). Still, the article is a trainwreck of inadequate referencing. --Jayron32 19:05, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Too much tags. Hanamanteo (talk) 20:00, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Wait Let us wait on this one. This article is seeing a lot of editing. Perhaps the sourcing will be fixed soon. Thriley (talk) 05:55, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support..... as soon as sourcing issues are resolved. Hopefully sooner than later, given Nesmith's significance. TheScrubby (talk) 11:51, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose correctly orange tagged for lack of sources. Joseph2302 (talk) 00:37, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) World Chess Championship 2021

Article: World Chess Championship 2021 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Magnus Carlsen (pictured) defends his World Chess Championship title, defeating Ian Nepomniachtchi. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Magnus Carlsen (pictured) defeats Ian Nepomniachtchi to defend his World Chess Championship title.
News source(s): Chess.com, WSJ, ESPN
Credits:

• Nominated by Kndimov (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Kndimov (talk) 15:56, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support The section for game 11 at the bottom of the article needs a source. Otherwise, this looks like a well written and decently referenced article. It would also be good to get some coverage for something outside of the usual sporting activities we tend to cover. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:50, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Conditional Support The article needs a small expansion of Game 11 prose and a proper source for that section, but it looks good otherwise. Please do that before posting this. Also, the event should be bolded in the blurb instead of the winner. That is our standard practice. --Jayron32 16:57, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment. Is this in a mainstream news outlet? 331dot (talk) 16:59, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
  • I've added more sources to the nom. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 17:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment the summaries are way too technical, listing every move in a format not known to the average reader. As a result, I learned very little from reading those game summaries. And some of the matches need some sources too. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment as noted, the Game 11 summary isn't ready yet. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 17:11, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Comment This is...an interesting one. It's well-written, but far too technical with the game sections. Perhaps a rewrite is needed to turn this into a more readable format. Heythereimaguy (talk) 17:14, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support and Comment WRT the article being "too technical", this is how articles on chess games are written (these are two articles previously on ITN, but there are plenty more examples). If someone can't read chess notation that's unfortunate but there's not much to be done. Articles on football matches don't explain every positional abbreviation, they just list them and move on. BSMRD (talk) 20:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support the summaries are short but give the gist of each match well, and accurately highlight what made each game a win or draw. There's not much more to wish for than that. _{Integral Python} ^{click here to argue with me} 21:31, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

• Well for starters, would like them all to have sources (at least three of the match summaries have no/inadequate sources). And the technical play-by-play thing of every move is confusing to a casual reader, and more of that should be explained in English (rather than chess notation). Joseph2302 (talk) 21:45, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

• It may improve soon but slow sourced prose adding is probably because 1. a good summary can only be written by a skilled human but the 32 pieces of wood and 64 squares have internal proximity sensors that post the moves to free websites immediately. 2. The alienese takes far less time and autisticness to learn than say Python (easy my ass) or even high school math so there's not a lot of chess fans who don't understand it. Unless you can practically play blindfolded you're supposed to keep track of the game on a physical chess set or click the forward button or what move you want on a website but otherwise it's easy. There are many openings but you don't need to know their names to read the alienese. I'll translate the header of the long game® and teach alienese below. It's 136 moves from each side which is the longest in the 136-year history of the championship and much longer than average.

  Queen's Pawn Game (the pawn in front of the queen goes first, but not 1 step, as that is rare and weird), Symmetrical Variation (queen's pawn games aren't symmetrical as often when the players are strong), Pseudo-Catalan (like the opening named after Catalonia (Barcelona's area) but not a proper Catalan Opening) (ECO D02 (this game is classified as chapter 02 (out of 100) of book D of the definitive Encyclopedia of Chess Openings: five physical books of alienese that world champions try to memorize))
  1. d4 (white pawn to d4, a1 is white's lower left square and black's upper right and the squares just go up from there, both queens start on the d-file) Nf6 (kNight to f6, cause capital K means king) 2. Nf3 d5 (the position now looks symmetrical) 3. g3 e6 (and Catalany, but no longer symmetrical) 4. Bg2 Be7 (bishop moves, the capital letters should be easy to figure out) 5. 0-0 (white castles) 0-0 (black castles) 6. b3 c5 7. dxc5 (x in a word of alienese means that whatever was before the x "ate" whatever was on the square after the x) Bxc5 8. c4 dxc4 9. Qc2 Qe7 10. Nbd2 (the knight that went to d2 came from the b-file, the extra letter, number or square disambiguates) Nc6 11. Nxc4 b5 12. Nce5 Nb4 13. Qb2 Bb7 14. a3 Nc6 15. Nd3 Bb6 16. Bg5 Rfd8 17. Bxf6 gxf6 18. Rac1 Nd4 19. Nxd4 Bxd4 20. Qa2 Bxg2 21. Kxg2 Qb7+ (+ means check) 22. Kg1 Qe4 23. Qc2 a5 24. Rfd1 Kg7 25. Rd2 Rac8 26. Qxc8 Rxc8 27. Rxc8 Qd5 28. b4 a4 29. e3 Be5 30. h4 h5 31. Kh2 Bb2 32. Rc5 Qd6 33. Rd1 Bxa3 34. Rxb5 Qd7 35. Rc5 e5 36. Rc2 Qd5 37. Rdd2 Qb3 38. Ra2 e4 39. Nc5 Qxb4 40. Nxe4 Qb3 41. Rac2 Bf8 42. Nc5 Qb5 43. Nd3 a3 44. Nf4 Qa5 45. Ra2 Bb4 46. Rd3 Kh6 47. Rd1 Qa4 48. Rda1 Bd6 49. Kg1 Qb3 50. Ne2 Qd3 51. Nd4 Kh7 52. Kh2 Qe4 53. Rxa3 Qxh4+ 54. Kg1 Qe4 55. Ra4 Be5 56. Ne2 Qc2 57. R1a2 Qb3 58. Kg2 Qd5+ 59. f3 Qd1 60. f4 Bc7 61. Kf2 Bb6 62. Ra1 Qb3 63. Re4 Kg7 64. Re8 f5 65. Raa8 Qb4 66. Rac8 Ba5 67. Rc1 Bb6 68. Re5 Qb3 69. Re8 Qd5 70. Rcc8 Qh1 71. Rc1 Qd5 72. Rb1 Ba7 73. Re7 Bc5 74. Re5 Qd3 75. Rb7 Qc2 76. Rb5 Ba7 77. Ra5 Bb6 78. Rab5 Ba7 79. Rxf5 Qd3 80. Rxf7+ Kxf7 81. Rb7+ Kg6 82. Rxa7 Qd5 83. Ra6+ Kh7 84. Ra1 Kg6 85. Nd4 Qb7 86. Ra2 Qh1 87. Ra6+ Kf7 88. Nf3 Qb1 89. Rd6 Kg7 90. Rd5 Qa2+ 91. Rd2 Qb1 92. Re2 Qb6 93. Rc2 Qb1 94. Nd4 Qh1 95. Rc7+ Kf6 96. Rc6+ Kf7 97. Nf3 Qb1 98. Ng5+ Kg7 99. Ne6+ Kf7 100. Nd4 Qh1 101. Rc7+ Kf6 102. Nf3 Qb1 103. Rd7 Qb2+ 104. Rd2 Qb1 105. Ng1 Qb4 106. Rd1 Qb3 107. Rd6+ Kg7 108. Rd4 Qb2+ 109. Ne2 Qb1 110. e4 Qh1 111. Rd7+ Kg8 112. Rd4 Qh2+ 113. Ke3 h4 114. gxh4 Qh3+ 115. Kd2 Qxh4 116. Rd3 Kf8 117. Rf3 Qd8+ 118. Ke3 Qa5 119. Kf2 Qa7+ 120. Re3 Qd7 121. Ng3 Qd2+ 122. Kf3 Qd1+ 123. Re2 Qb3+ 124. Kg2 Qb7 125. Rd2 Qb3 126. Rd5 Ke7 127. Re5+ Kf7 128. Rf5+ Ke8 129. e5 Qa2+ 130. Kh3 (diagram) Qe6 131. Kh4 Qh6+ 132. Nh5 Qh7 133. e6 Qg6 134. Rf7 Kd8 135. f5 Qg1 136. Ng7 1–0 (white won this giving Carlsen 1 point of the 7 and a half he got by the end of the championship, there is no checkmate symbol (# or ++) on the Ng7 (as is expected for this level) which tells you that black almost certainly resigned when he thought he had no chance to even draw for a half-point anymore) And !!, !, !?, ?!, ? and ?? give the right idea, even if you don't know that say ?! means dubious but not quite a blunder, capitals after a pawn moving to the end obviously mean promotion and ep or e.p. mean en passant. That's pretty much it. Sometimes ++ means double check but I usually just see a single + no matter how many things are checking at once. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 07:43, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

• Comment The Game 11 summary needs to be sourced. Also some reaction to the conclusion of the match should be included. Pawnkingthree (talk) 21:43, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is in excellent shape and can be posted now. As for the algebraic notation, please note that the "Results" section is properly labelled with {{Algebraic notation}} (if you're not familiar with any symbol, please consult this page). It's impossible to convert the game summaries into a more readable format without algebraic notation in the same way as it's impossible to explain results in mathematics or physics without mathematical notation. This has never been a problem both for chess and scientific articles posted to ITNR, so there's really no reason to argue that something should be changed when it's not possible.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 11:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks fine for an ITNR to me. Gotitbro (talk) 11:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support, the article looks in good shape for posting in its current form. Nsk92 (talk) 11:48, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. Black Kite (talk) 12:01, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Oded Muhammad Danial

Article: Oded Muhammad Danial (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [18]
Credits:

• Nominated by Juxlos (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: - Juxlos (talk) 09:04, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

• Support A notable person and his death was sudden, and also appeared everywhere around the national media. The article could have a bit more expansion but otherwise good for RD. Nyanardsan (talk) 12:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article looks good. – Ammarpad (talk) 16:58, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
• Support The article is in good shape and well-referenced. Hanamanteo (talk) 09:48, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Insufficient depth of coverage. In the first line, it states that he is notable for being Bandung's mayor. What did he accomplish while in that role? Article has no information at present about his role as mayor after his election. Spencer^T•C 16:12, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

• Added some details - a couple sentences, really. Juxlos (talk) 05:38, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 18:07, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

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