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[edit]I just saw a commercial with Spike Lee about Jackie Robinson, in front of a facade that says Ebbets Field - and some banners in a library. Is there a library at the old Ebbets Field location?
Flatbush?
[edit]As a man who spent part of his childhood om the corner of Montgomery Street and Dearborn Court, within easy walking distance of Ebbets Field, I have to say that the neighborhood was and is known as Crown Heights. But the immediate neighborhood had, before the construction of Ebbets Field, been known as Pig Town, because of all the pig farms there. Too Old 16:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Nowadays that area would undoubtedly be considered Flatbush or perhaps Lefferts Gardens. The nearby projects probably relegate it to Flatbush. Crown Heights used to be a larger and more ethnically based designation before the changing of Brooklyn's neighborhoods.
- See Pigtown, Brooklyn for more on that historic neighborhood. 67.86.73.252 (talk) 14:23, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
Duke Snider was known as "The Duke of Flatbush" -- for whatever reason, the field was always associated with that neighborhood.--Amcalabrese (talk) 22:37, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Media searching for a synonym for "Brooklyn" typically said "Flatbush", whether that was technically correct or not. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 23:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Aside from the obvious Snider reference, I can think of a couple of others. It occurs to me that Flatbush is kind of a funny-sounding name, hence more colorful than Crown Heights but not so gross as Pigtown:
- When Carl Erskine struck out a record number of Yankees in a World Series game in the early 1950s, the radio announcer calling that strikeout at Ebbets Field said, "They're on their feet applauding here in Flatbush!" or words close to that. The point was, he said "Flatbush".
- Brooklyn native Danny Kaye's 1962 song about the L.A. Dodgers contained this segment: "Bottom of the ninth / Four to nuttin' / Last chance / Push the button / Oh, we're beggin', pleadin', on our knees / Come on, you Flatbush refugees!"
- Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 23:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Guanus Ridge was the original boundary between the Towns of Flatbush and Bushwick, so indeed this was deep inside Flatbush. That ridgeline is now Eastern Parkway. As the the towns divided and became wards of the City of Brooklyn and the neighborhoods changed in later centuries, the old township names continuously receded and now only name small parts of their original territories. So, what it was "in the old days" depends on which particular old days are in mind. Jim.henderson (talk) 22:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
- Which suggests the related point that after 1898, the Brooklyn Dodgers could just as well, and legitimately, called themselves the New York Dodgers, but they chose not to. Conversely, the New York Yankees and New York Mets could have called themselves the Bronx Yankees and the Queens (or Flushing) Mets, but they chose not to. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Medgar Evers College is across the street and listed on Wikipedia as being located in Crown Heights. | MK17b | (talk) 04:12, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
- Which suggests the related point that after 1898, the Brooklyn Dodgers could just as well, and legitimately, called themselves the New York Dodgers, but they chose not to. Conversely, the New York Yankees and New York Mets could have called themselves the Bronx Yankees and the Queens (or Flushing) Mets, but they chose not to. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 02:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Guanus Ridge was the original boundary between the Towns of Flatbush and Bushwick, so indeed this was deep inside Flatbush. That ridgeline is now Eastern Parkway. As the the towns divided and became wards of the City of Brooklyn and the neighborhoods changed in later centuries, the old township names continuously receded and now only name small parts of their original territories. So, what it was "in the old days" depends on which particular old days are in mind. Jim.henderson (talk) 22:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I've added a POV notice to the section above since it seems rather nostalgic, speaking of the "heartbroken" fans that the team abandoned, etc. It seems to have been written by someone with a pro-Dodgers POV. --Tom (talk - email) 13:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- There are endless sources that talk about the various emotions the Brooklyn Dodgers' fans felt when their team left. Wahkeenah 01:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
1965
[edit]Under the World Series titles at the bottom...............it should say six championships,......where is 1965????
Also, the "Mahatma" didn't move the team west, they called Branch Ricky Mahatma, not O'Malley.
1965 was at Los Angeles... not Brooklyn... and I believe the list was only listing the Brooklyn victories...
ebbets field today
[edit]it says that ebbets field houses/apartments/homes have been renamed to jackie robinson but if you pass by it, it's still has in steel lettering and clearly says EBBETS FIELD. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.23.238.207 (talk) 01:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Opening Date Contradiction(s)?
[edit]In the article, it clearly says (in a few different places) that the park opened on April 9th, 1913. However, the picture of Charles Ebbets' daughter throwing out the first pitch is hand dated April 5th, 1913. Also, under the legacy section, there is a picture that is captioned "Ray Caldwell pitching in the first game at Ebbets Field, April 5, 1913.". Which is the correct date? April 5th, or April 9th? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.214.101.206 (talk) 17:18, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- There was an exhibition game against the Yankees on the 5th. The official opening came against the Phillies on the 9th. I've tried to clarify that point in the article. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:52, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- New ballparks often have exhibitions that precede the official openers. It's a way to run a "User Acceptance Test", to be sure everything is in working order. Target Field had 2 exhibitions and a Gophers game prior to the official opening. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 19:54, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
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1950?
[edit]The Brooklyn Dodgers could not have won 5 pennants in a row between 1949 and 1953. The Philadelphia Phillies were the NL pennant winners in 1950. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.219.78.139 (talk) 13:22, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
My correction
[edit]My apologies. I re-read the article and it was vaguely mentioned in the story about "two games away." May need to clarify that the "two games out" happened in 1950, and the playoff heartbreak was caused by the "Shot Heard 'Round the World" in 1951. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.219.78.139 (talk) 13:27, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
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