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removed a redir to Victoria. Srl 03:08, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Name: Arabic word for suburb?

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  sorted - ta

But Google Translate thinks the Arabic for suburb is dahia. Now, obviously Google Translate is never wrong or even misleading . . well, no, let me try again . . Wikipedia seems to say (!) tht Rabat (capital of Morocco;so not the one in Malta!) is an old city that originated as the ribat, = fortification, at the (even older) Salé (and was so named). So maybe rabat means fortification not suburb. Or maybe it now (= since Rabat in Morocco became an important city) means both? Our article needs correcting, or what it says needs clarifying.

– 07:53, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Meanwhile it seems clear tht rabat / ribat is not the Arabic word for suburb. I’ve rephrased the article very slightly, as a temporary fudge, to mention an Arabic word.

– SquisherDa (talk) 08:20, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@SquisherDa: hi. I have read up on ribat, Jacqueline Chabbi has an excellent paper on the evolution of its meaning in Arabic and the wider Muslim world. She's not dealing with rabat, and it seems to me that ribat and rabat aren't the same, nor do they need to share the same origin beyond the probably common root. The Arabic root r-b-t has the general sense of attaching or linking, which works well for a suburb. The source I have added now, Britannica, is quite clear - and reliable, I would say. Arminden (talk) 16:57, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
And here's another one: Edward Lipiński (1997). Semitic Languages: Outline of a Comparative Grammar. Leuven: Peeters, Orientalia Lovaniensia Analecta: 80, ISBN 90-6831-939-6. Via e-learning.tsu.ge.
"Index of Words and Forms: Arabic" has on p. 693
rabaḍ "suburb", 16.8
sending to p. 131, 16.8:
Andalusian Arabic....was....borrowed in Spanish...., ʼar-rabḍa, "suburb", as arrabal(de).
So rabad = suburb in Arabic.. How d can become t & vice versa is an old story.
Here as a ready-made ref: <ref name=Lipinski>{{cite book |last= Lipiński |first= Edward |author-link= Edward Lipiński |title= Semitic Languages: Outline of a Comparative Grammar |year= 1997 |pages= 131, 693 |publisher=[[Peeters Publishers]] |location= Leuven |series= Orientalia Lovaniensia Analecta'' |volume= 80 |isbn= 90-6831-939-6 |via=[[Tbilisi State University]] website |url= https://e-learning.tsu.ge/pluginfile.php/5865/mod_resource/content/0/Lipinski_-_Semitic_Languages._Outline_of_a_Comparative_Grammar.pdf |access-date=2 September 2022}} (At Google Books: [https://books.google.com/books?id=IiXVqyEkPKcC 2nd edition] (2001), {{ISBN|9042908157}}.)</ref> Arminden (talk) 16:57, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]