Talk:VisitScotland

External links

I've reduced the amount of external links per WP:SPAM- I think the main site is enough for such a small article. Thunderwing 15:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Branch Offices

Why are only two other branch offices than Edinburgh mentioned? I would consider the 100 tourist information centres that they run as branch offices? Or am I misunderstanding the phrase. Skarfy (talk) 21:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

COI/COPYVIO/TONE/PERSON

In this series of edits, a user claiming to represent the subject made a significant number of changes to the content. I have reverted those changes. On the basis that:

• WP:COIEDIT expects that, except for minor fixes or non-material edits, editors with a conflict of interest should raise the proposed changes on a talk page (like this one). For comment from uninvolved editors. Before those changes are then applied.
• MOS:PERSON expects that, except in quotes or similar, first person pronouns should not be used. Statements about "our renowned beautiful scenery" or "our whiskies famous across the globe" or "our cultural traditions, captivating myths, stories and legends" are completely inappropriate. Wikipedia doesn't have "beautiful scenery". So the term "our" here is completely inappropriate.
• WP:NOTPROMO expects that tone be balanced and non-promotional. So, even if (for example) the above were reworded to remove the use of the term "our", the promotional tone above (renowned, beautiful, famous, captivating, etc) and elsewhere is not in keeping with guidelines.
• WP:COPYVIO expects that copyrighted material not be used on the project. Almost all of the problematic text is a verbatim copy and paste of text from visitscotland.org. Where it is published under a copyrighted licence claim of "© 2019 VisitScotland. All Rights Reserved". Copyrighted and "all rights reserved" content is, by definition, not compatible with the Creative Commons licences used here.

Unless/until these issues can be addressed, the proposed content cannot be added. And, even then, not in its proposed form. Guliolopez (talk) 14:41, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Merge

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived.

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A decade ago, when VisitScotland.com was not technically/directly operated by VisitScotland, it may have made sense to have two separate articles covering each "separate" entity/topic. However, as VisitScotland has operated its own VisitScotland.com website for over a decade now, it no longer seems to make sense to cover them separately. If each topic is covered independently, then each article has to separately provide context for the other. A significant overlap, requiring significant duplication, and resulting in repeated contextual content. Which meets three of the WP:MERGEREASONs. While there may be a place for explaining that the organisation didn't previously directly manage its own website, that can easily be covered in the body of a merged article. A separate article is not needed to communicate that. Otherwise, unless anyone can advise of a good reason why an organisation and its website require separate articles, I'm inclined to merge them. Guliolopez (talk) 11:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Bump. It's been a week or more since I proposed the merge. Unless there are other thoughts or suggestions, I'll likely move ahead with it. (As noted, I can't see any reason for having one article covering the organisation and another covering its website). Guliolopez (talk) 16:02, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

 Resolved - Not having heard any other thoughts, I've gone ahead with this merge. Guliolopez (talk) 11:34, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Update/corrections needed on page

Hi,

The following copy has some incorrect information within:

VisitScotland, formerly the Scottish Tourist Board, is the national tourism agency for Scotland. It is an executive non-departmental public body of the Scottish Government, with offices in Edinburgh, Inverness, and London as well as other parts of Scotland. It operates alongside VisitBritain, an organisation with a similar remit for Great Britain as a whole.

Can this be changed to:

VisitScotland, formerly the Scottish Tourist Board, is the national tourism ORGANISATION for Scotland. It is an executive non-departmental public body of the Scottish Government, with offices in Edinburgh, Glasgow, and Inverness [REMOVE LONDON, INSERT GLASGOW] as well as other parts of Scotland

[REMOVE]It operates alongside VisitBritain, an organisation with a similar remit for Great Britain as a whole.

Please remove the below as this is not accurate:

One aspect of VisitScotland's work is managing a network of websites featuring a variety of travel interest and holiday activity themes. These include golf, walking, cycling, city breaks, adventure, ancestral, Ski Scotland and wildlife.[citation needed]

I am currently working on new copy with reliable sources cited to do a proper update. I will put this copy in this section with instructions and hope that someone can take this forward. In the meantime if the above could be action-ed, that would be great. Thanks! Anna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna at VisitScotlandCorp (talk • contribs) 11:37, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi.

RE: "Update/corrections needed". Please note that, in this edit, I have:

• Updated the "locations" text. As the latest available ref supports those entries.
• Removed the "partnership" text. As the previously available ref was archived in 2017. And therefore potentially out-of-date.
• Removed the "managing a network of websites featuring a variety of travel interest and holiday activity themes" text. As promotional in tone. And tagged as unsupported for >6 months.

RE: "currently working on new copy". Please consider avoiding making any changes directly. And certainly do not do so using (as before) content verbatim replicated from your organisation's website. Per repeated reversions, notices and advisories on the WP:COI and WP:COPYVIO guidelines.

Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 12:28, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

References