Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jason Zucker

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The result was keep. Courcelles 00:18, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Zucker

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Doesn't meet NHOCKEY. Coudnt find coverage on player from websites and has not won an award in his junior league. USA1168 (talk) 02:16, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Was the WCHA rookie of the year, meeting WP:NHOCKEY criterion #4, and also a 2nd team all-star (although the latter would not in itself meet WP:NHOCKEY).[1] Some additional independent coverage from The Hockey News available here [2] and found another small item here [3]. Additional reliable sources, though not necessarily independent, are also available to flesh out the article, such as [4], [5], [6], [7]. Other sources apparently exist as well, such as an article on twincities.com entitled "Minnesota Wild draftee Jason Zucker a hit in WCHA" that I am unable to access. Rlendog (talk) 16:24, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WCHA Rookie of the Year is not a major award so not meeting criterion #4 of NHOCKEY, and independent coverage is not substantial so not meeting GNG. Xajaso (talk) 21:49, 3 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Why is rookie of the year not a major award? Previous AfD discussions have indicated that rookie of the year awards do meet criterion #4 of NHOCKEY, for example here [8] (where the ROY award had not been determined but all the voters who expressed an opinion indicated that the player in question would meet NHOCKEY if he won ROY. And that is not the only case, it is just the one I can specifically recall. Rlendog (talk) 01:04, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:39, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The WP:NHOCKEY guideline #4 states "Achieved preeminent honours (all-time top ten career scorer, won a major award given by the league, first team all-star, All-American) in a lower minor league such as the Central Hockey League or the United Hockey League, in a major junior league such as those of the Canadian Hockey League, or in a major collegiate hockey league ...". This player seems to meet that requirement, since it permits any "major award" and a "major collegiate hockey league" such as the WCHA. --Noleander (talk) 19:37, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - RotY from the WCHA is a 'major award' in my opinion. Captain Courageous (talk) 09:21, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:NHOCKEY guideline #4, since it appears that the Western Collegiate Hockey Association (WCHA) qualifies as a "major collegiate hockey league" and being "Rookie of the Year" apparently qualifies as "preeminent honours". Richwales (talk · contribs) 00:53, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.